Im trying to decide which bike engine to go for, im running on a budget, so the slightly older R1 engines are quite attractive, given that a decent ZZR1400 is about 2.5K

I can appreciate that the ZZR engine would be amazing but its just too much....

So, how reliable is an 03 R1 in a BEC situation? Is it going to keep falling appart?

The other option is a blackbird engine from a CBR 1100...similar power to the R1, just a bit more torque, would this be ok in a bec?

If I buy a kit from a reputable source with ECU and clocks, would I need anything else to get the engine into the car?

Obviously need a prop and adapter, but are there any other big costs involved with this?

[Edited on 3/2/08 by tegwin]

this mite be just the job http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAWASAKI-ZX12R-ZX-12-R-2002-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ150211208589QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10464QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I know you are obviously just at the planning stage at the moment, but try and avoid the 03/04 R1 engine specifically - they are not the best engine's to use in a BEC as they don't "lend" themselves to being in a car or sidecar although they were brilliant in the bike...

HTH
Steve

The Blackbird is well known for oil starvation probs on no.3 cyl - Avoid!!

Why not go for the new ZX10 engine - more power & torque than the R1 (I think?) & absolutely unburstable.

The budget choice is a pre '95 ZZR1100, no emissions & CAT issues & costs about tuppence

Hmm... the kwak ZX 12R or 10R looks nice...The former has 178Hp and 134Nm of torque...Thats one hell of a lot!

Its the 04/05 to avoid in the R1 in a car.

and the 02/03 5PW (first injected one) is fine.

Just to clear that up as a previous post said 03/04.

Though someone will probably point out there were early or late registrations of both and therefore some crossover...

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Originally posted by imp paul
this mite be just the job http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAWASAKI-ZX12R-ZX-12-R-2002-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ150211208589QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10464QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Funny, I was going to put 03/04/05!

So it was the crossover that I was referring to that it started at!

Thanks for clearing that up Dave.

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Originally posted by hobbsy
Its the 04/05 to avoid in the R1 in a car.

and the 02/03 5PW (first injected one) is fine.

Just to clear that up as a previous post said 03/04.

Though someone will probably point out there were early or late registrations of both and therefore some crossover...

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Originally posted by tegwin
Hmm... the kwak ZX 12R or 10R looks nice...The former has 178Hp and 134Nm of torque...Thats one hell of a lot!

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Silly question...

but which "necessery pieces" do you mean?

With the ZX12R engine the ram pipes/trumpets and air intake temp sensor are mounted in the frame and can be quite easily overlooked and forgotten. Also, the clocks, fuel pump, fuel level sender and battery box c/w relays can be used from the bike.

Phil

[Edited on 3-2-08 by Hellfire]

If you look around hard enough and i dont mean ebay as every man and his dog are on there,it is possible to pick up a light accident damaged early zx12 or hayabusa for under £1,800 take off the bits you need, sell the rest. I have just bought an 02 cosmetic damage only hayabusa 9,000 miles on the clock for £1,300.00 as the donar for a customers bec.

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Originally posted by MB CUSTOMS
If you look around hard enough and i dont mean ebay as every man and his dog are on there,it is possible to pick up a light accident damaged early zx12 or hayabusa for under £1,800 take off the bits you need, sell the rest. I have just bought an 02 cosmetic damage only hayabusa 9,000 miles on the clock for £1,300.00 as the donar for a customers bec.

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