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brake fluid + light (again)
jimmyjonga - 16/11/04 at 10:00 AM

do i really have to have a brake fluid warning light??? the sva manual seems a little ambiguous... it says that i have to be able to check how much fluid ive got without taking off the cap... either by a permanent min mark on a translucent container OR a warning (visible or audible)...

it then goes on to say that failure will result if i dont have both????

does anyone know if i can just have separate master cylinder reservoirs with min marks on and not do any wiring???

james

[Edited on 16/11/04 by jimmyjonga]

[Edited on 16/11/04 by jimmyjonga]


wicket - 16/11/04 at 10:48 AM

James
You do need a red warning light with symbol. See attached, this is a typical symbol.

[Edited on 16/11/04 by wicket]

[Edited on 16/11/04 by wicket] Rescued attachment Symbol.jpg
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wicket - 16/11/04 at 10:49 AM

James
Here's the notes from the manual Rescued attachment Brake_Fluid_Warning_Light.jpg
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David Jenkins - 16/11/04 at 10:54 AM

You must have something in the passenger compartment to let you know if you've lost brake fluid.

Alternatively, you can have a pressure warning gizmo in the brake line... I think!

David


wicket - 16/11/04 at 11:13 AM

James
Here's the notes again, a bit missing last tiem. Rescued attachment Brake_Fluid_Warning_Light.jpg
Rescued attachment Brake_Fluid_Warning_Light.jpg


Peteff - 16/11/04 at 11:26 AM

If I take one of the wheels off for SVA I don't need one then.


jimmyjonga - 16/11/04 at 11:38 AM

what confused me is that is says that i can have a translucent container OR a warning light, but then goes on to say that i will fail if i dont have both....(?)

i want to get things as simple as possible but it looks like i need the warning light to be sure i pass the sva..

anyone used an audible warning??

james


Deckman001 - 16/11/04 at 05:25 PM

I wanted to, but am using the handbrake as the light check therefore joining the circuits, it is poss i guess with diodes and alike but havn't given it much thought yet as i just want to start the car at the moment

Jason


j_davis - 16/11/04 at 07:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjonga
what confused me is that is says that i can have a translucent container OR a warning light, but then goes on to say that i will fail if i dont have both....(?)


You missed the 'not', it's if you don't have either a translucent container or a warning light then you will fail.

Therefore you can get away with just having a translucent container with a min mark for level indication.

However for warning of system failure you need a red warning light (with standard symbol) that is activated by either a pressure sensing device or by low level.
Hence it is easier just to fit a warning light that is activated by low level - as this covers both requirements.

EDIT: Also you need a test facility available from the driving position for the light - can either use the handbrake switch or a separate test switch

[Edited on 16/11/04 by j_davis]


Baldrick - 17/11/04 at 11:23 AM

j_davis sums it up nicely. I read the requirements as a transucent reservoir was sufficient but failed SVA because no warning light on dash. The light must be able to be tested either by the handbrake or, as I did, with a simple push button. I also had two reservoir's but simply wired them in parallel.


Chris Leonard - 18/11/04 at 01:31 PM

and make sure it does have the correct symbol - mine would have failed as it just was a red light with 'brake' on it. I had to scratch the symbol into it


Ben_Copeland - 20/11/04 at 09:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjonga
EDIT: Also you need a test facility available from the driving position for the light - can either use the handbrake switch or a separate test switch





bugger, something else i need to wire in


britishtrident - 2/12/04 at 08:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
I wanted to, but am using the handbrake as the light check therefore joining the circuits, it is poss i guess with diodes and alike but havn't given it much thought yet as i just want to start the car at the moment

Jason


No need for diodes the bulb just earths through the handbrake switch.


chaos999 - 2/12/04 at 11:37 AM

Passed SVA two weeks ago.

They wanted a light to show handbrake was on and were happy that the same light linked into the fluid resevoir cap so that when the cap plunger was depressed the light light up (simulates loss of fluid). Labelled on the dash as BRAKES!! no symbols used.

Fluid resevoir was transparent and had min mark too.

SImon