Either that or it's just a Gusterwotsit thing.... Nutter that he is....
I need a set of springs pretty soon now, just wondering where to get them from. GTS tuning have a set for 220+vat, does anyone know if they're
any good? I'm down at MKs tommorow but their unit is 300 quid...
suppose 220+vat nearly is 300 though. Any suggestions anyone?
ta
the cheapest is zeemerides, which I have. The car isnt on the road, so i cant say yay or nay, but if you can afford 220 instead of the 180 the
zeemers are, id try something that wasnt made by lolo.......
one little issue is the bolt eyes are imperial, 3/8 - I had to spend a tenner on a reamer to make em 10mm.
the guy from gts posts on here often - look in for sale section (darren?) and ask him about his own product!
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
.....one little issue is the bolt eyes are imperial, 3/8 - I had to spend a tenner on a reamer to make em 10mm.
I think he's one of the Euronuts that can't wait to scrap everything related to Britain...
Either that or it's just a Gusterwotsit thing.... Nutter that he is....
Hi Alan.
Its quite hard to find non metric fixings to the specific requirement I needed. Ie, approx 70mm and 110mm long - that were bolts and not machine
screws. The major catalogs I have for industrial supply - rs and farnell - dont hold them, neither does screwfix.
I could have tried my local fixings supply counter, but I dindt have a lot of hope that they would have 6 off 70mm bolts and 2 of 110mm bolts off the
shelf.
The closest I saw at a kit show was 5 quid a friggin bolt! That made a reamer at 8 quid plus vat a real bargain.
The answer for hippy is much shorter.
Bollox.
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
.....one little issue is the bolt eyes are imperial, 3/8 - I had to spend a tenner on a reamer to make em 10mm.
Why Steve?.....Can't you get imperial nuts and bolts in the UK any more?
Serious question....not a wee take...(for a change)
GTS shocks are £220 including VAT!
Kind regards,
Darren
Thanks all!
How many british nuts and bolts on yer beemer then hipster?
You old flag flyer you....
quote:
Originally posted by Metal Hippy
I think he's one of the Euronuts that can't wait to scrap everything related to Britain...
Either that or it's just a Gusterwotsit thing.... Nutter that he is....
Oh there's loads. Honest.
Regarding the engine, I wanted more power straight out of the box same as you did... Yeah it's making everything a touch more difficult but
that's half the fun...
Can i just remind everyone that the latest info on Zeemerides from the members of this list are that the new spec. ones don't fit on Locosts.
Kind regards,
Darren
Darren,
Have you any plans to offer adjustable shocks?
Pete
I can supply a quality adjustable damper already through my association with Nitron (www.nitron.co.uk).
These are out of most Locosters price range. I don't want to make a Gaz or Avo as they are more trouble than they are worth as they are so poor
and unreliable its in the basic arcitecture of that thype of adjustable damper. If i tried to do a quality piece in line with the non adjustables i do
then the price would be prohibitively expensive.
If you build a car close to the one described in the book and use it for the road then my non adjustables offer the best solution. If you use
adjustables you'll find them difficult to setup (their range of adjsutment is vast and only a few of the adjustments will be useful for you car),
the adjustment mechanism makes them unreliable (the adjusters stick and leak), and the finish of the dampers is steel and the threaded part rusts and
sticks making them look unsightly.
I know all this from years of manufacturing and rebuilding shocks including Spax, Avo and Gaz's, also including high performance race shocks
etc..
Kind regards,
Darren
I got my adjustables from AVO. Nothing wrong that I can make out. Used them in US for years without trouble. If you tell Nigel the spring poundages
you are using, he will adjust the valving to suit.
Just a satisfied customer and user!
Happy Day,
Jack.
Just to confirm what Darren said about zeemers,stay away from the buggers they are too long the mounting bush is a wierd size 41 mill wide.
Just had to do loads of extra work to get em to fit,they are cheap, mine cost £150 but they are seriously not worth the hassle.You have been warned
(ooooooh that sounds wellard!!!!)
Steve re our swap, sorted the problem out mate sorry I havent been in touch but havent been in the office for 10 days so havent picked up any emails
as I say I think the shocks would have given you problems re the mountings best with what you have got mate.
Cheers,
Bob
very interesting to read mr darren from gts or dozracings, comments on avo shocks.
i feel because gts are not a avo customer they do not have a true understanding of our product. all avo units have plated threaded bodies helping to
gard against road dirt and rust, valving has been specifically developed for the locost type car and our adjustment range is ideal to cover users from
fast road to track etc, you will see many race users of avo coil over dampers, even in other classes like radical and ginetta. the adjusters will only
stick if they are not maintained and greased it is not much of a problem to do.
if any builders would like further details of our product range, please do not hesitate to call us on 01604 708101 i am sure we can help
thank you for your time
nigel
ps if gts would like to become a trade dealer for avo shock, please give me a call and i will be happy to inlighten you with regard to shock
absorbers etc
If your mounts are as book (taking into account the error on the rear axle mounts) then GTS shocks fit perfect.
If your not racing there's just no point paying £100 + for adjustable damping. The car is gonna rattle your teeth out anyway.
quote:
If your not racing there's just no point paying £100 + for adjustable damping. The car is gonna rattle your teeth out anyway.
quote:
. If you use adjustables you'll find them difficult to setup (their range of adjsutment is vast and only a few of the adjustments will be useful for you car), the adjustment mechanism makes them unreliable (the adjusters stick and leak), and the finish of the dampers is steel and the threaded part rusts and sticks making them look unsightly.
customer....
Having some experience working in the media area of off-road racing / dune buggies, I can see that even with the distance between south USA and Europe
and GB, nothing changes!
You have two quality opponents in shock absorbers, and everyone disagrees. Most will find fault with either, so there is no solving anything.
Just an observation.
Carry on
Matt, I do not have ANY problem whatsoever with the Nitron product, in fact, they do look good value for money, but only for someone who is building a
*standard* Locost (whatever that might be). But for someone (who happens to be trying to sell the above product) to publically rip apart other
popular shock absorber manufacturers, is taking the wee a bit.
IME Avo shockers have served me well, and I am only preaching this so readers do not get a (very?) biased view. Yes, I have Avo's on both my LSIS
cars. And I have played around with the platform AND damper settings to get the cars to handle how I want them too. Would they handle the same
with unadjustable Nitrons? Who knows, they might even handle better.
But I wouldnt of had half as much fun, playing with settings, and giving it another thrash......
I have used AVO shocks on several cars from road going tin tops to circuit cars and grass track cars, a real shitty enviroment for shocks grassers
are, i have never had a problem with any shock supplied and the service i have recieved has been top notch (even had the boss stay late to help sort
out some shocks for me) thats why i am using AVO's on my Avon.
Oh and it helps they are only 15 mins from me.
quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
Cheers,
Syd.
Mr.Moderator, I would ask that you remove Mr.Dozracings previous reply, and allow him to replace it with one a little more in keeping. Feel free to edit this as needed as well. Thanking You, Syd.
[Edited on 23/8/03 by Syd Bridge]
quote:
Mr.Moderator, I would ask that you remove Mr.Dozracings previous reply, and allow him to replace it with one a little more in keeping. Feel free to edit this as needed as well. Thanking You, Syd.
Sorry chaps but i think syd has a point, dozracing has a history of slagging off AVO, Spax and Gaz just so he can push the product he sells, bit biased wouldn't you say?
And Syd has a history of slagging people off and being threatening via the forum and email.
Which one would you prefer to cope with?
so what is Syd trying to sell?
Didn't say he was selling anything and I certainly wasn't condoning any sales pitch.
My point is that Dozracing chooses to slate others in order to sell his product. Just makes me wonder why he has to resort to such sales tactics.
Difference is he slates products not people from what I've seen. Maybe I've missed some other occasions, I deffo don't claim to read every post on the forum...
My apploogies i should have said other products in my last post, if Syd gets his jollies slagging inividuels (is that spelt right?) then he is a twat of the first order, but what grounds does Doz have for slagging other shocks, other than to push his own?
Other than possibly having genuinely gained the experience he describes I dunno.
As I said, I don't condone it.
Just out of curriosity, what shocks are you using?
None as yet.
I shall decide as and when we calculate what we'll need for the hefty Beemer lump up front.
I have no preference as to make in the slightest.
On that note, if you buy Dozracing shocks it might be nice, once you have the beast finished, to post on here what you think of them, good, bad or
indiferent.
An unbiased opinion if you like.
If we do, I will certainly do that.
As I said though, all depends what best suits the car according to what info we gather.
Trouble is, the non-adjustable Nitrons *may* not be ideal for a 'Non comformist' Locost.....
[Edited on 24/8/03 by Stu16v]
Standing to one side with my neutral hat on I say good posting Syd.
On the active moderation side of things I would say it's usually avoided if at all possible rather than not used.
One thing I would suggest (and this isn't just aimed at you Syd, it's a general comment) sometimes it might be an idea to decide that a
point has been taken as far as is sensible... Might avoid keep going over the same old ground in a single thread.
Lets leave it now. Hands up who's going for a pint...
Some Aussie male if you're under the thumb like that....
(Handbag at the ready)
diets.....
I ended up in a conversation with three other guys at work - we were all on diets it came out!
One was on Atkins and it was working for him.
A few months back I was 13 stone 10 lbs.
Im now 12 stone 2 lbs.
All I did was loosely follow the weight watchers ideals - which is eat stuff with low saturated fat and lowish calories.
My car might weigh like a tank, but at least I have lost a few kilos!
atb
slim (shady) steve
I always say sod the diet, eat what you want and just do more excersise to burn it off. That way you'll get healthy as well.
It isnt working though.
Syd Bridge:
quote:Syd, I reckon you're a bastard.
In Aus, you can call a man a 'bastard', and depending on tone of voice and facial expression, you could be giving him the highest praise possible, or the most demeaning...