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How much BHP is enough ?
DaveFJ - 10/8/04 at 03:06 PM

come on then lets sort the men from the boys.....


Ben_Copeland - 10/8/04 at 03:09 PM

As much as i can afford....


Louis M - 10/8/04 at 04:00 PM

I'm gonna try for around 250-260hp


drmike54 - 10/8/04 at 04:12 PM

I'm going for 220 hp because thats what a Ford Turbo should do with minor mods. BTW the engine only cost $300 and I am not rich.


derf - 10/8/04 at 04:29 PM

my reply to the other BHP topic:

too much is never enough, (this is my American bigger is better raving lunatic answer, pay no attention to me whats ever its a slow day for me at work) If you are having problems stripping out tranny gears that means that you bought an inferior tranny, that will give you a good reason to upgrade to a 6 speed sequential with paddle shift behind the steering wheel box. If your having problems with grip you need a limited slip rear axle and some real big sticky tires, ones that are coated with glue. If your frame stars to bend thats alrighjt, just bend it back on a chassis jig and add some extra support, the chassis is meant to be bent a few times. If you are looking for 1000 hp from a 1.6l engine, just add a few sequential turbos, and some boost 100lbs should do fine, just dont forget to re-do the fuel system.

Remember the key phrase is bigger is better, now go out there and find yourself a v16 engine to stuff into our chass, and dont forget to add a few big turbos to it.

[Edited on 10/8/04 by derf]


MonkeyHunter - 10/8/04 at 04:34 PM

230 but im not rich unfortunately

Middy with a 1.6L DOHC Honda Vtec + Turbo


type 907 - 10/8/04 at 05:12 PM

I'v just worked it out.

My engine cost me £0 - 37.5p per BHP


Happy Bunny


jollygreengiant - 11/8/04 at 11:33 AM

My dad used to follow a Rolls-Royce merlin around and he said they werz best until he discovered a Napier Sabre.



Anyone got a big mallet suitable for sorting computers when they don't work?


garage19 - 11/8/04 at 11:53 AM

If i include my engine management mine is over £4 per bhp!!!


type 907 - 11/8/04 at 12:08 PM

Mmmmmmm, Over £4

Ah..... but I did have to fork out £10 for a
dizzy off an MGB GT.

But then again, on the plus side.......

It did come with twin 45's. The've gotta
be worth a tenner havn't they.


timf - 11/8/04 at 12:14 PM

hmm £3.50/ bhp


TPAFKAMH - 11/8/04 at 09:53 PM

£1.51 per bhp

That'll do me


stephen_gusterson - 11/8/04 at 10:05 PM

how much is enough?

depends on what you want to do...

with thrust ssc, the power they quoted was approx 100,000 horsepower.

They wanted to do mach 1, and did mach 1.02.

so, a 100,000 was barely enough.



atb

steve


Dale - 12/8/04 at 04:17 PM

Start with aprox 175-200 keeping the engine stock. $1.75cnd /hp. More hp will be add untill I can do under 4.5sec to 60mph. Being my car may be upto 1500lbs -its a bit bigger and a ford2.3t. The next 50-75hp will cost nothing more than time and some diegrinding bits.

btw drmike54 I see your using the same engine--how goes the build
Dale


Viper - 12/8/04 at 06:42 PM

when the available power outweighs the available grip

then you have enough power


sgraber - 13/8/04 at 07:34 PM

If you can't leave two black burnout stripes the entire way down the straightaway you don't have enough power.

Actually, I expect the limits of sanity are close to 300BHP in a car the size and weight of mine. I can't wait to find out!

4AGZE (Supercharger removed) - Turbo Added - Intercooler - MegaSquirt = Around 300Hp

[Edited on 8/13/04 by sgraber]


derf - 13/8/04 at 08:26 PM

Viper, I dissagree with your statement "when the avalable power outweighs the available grip", when that happens there are still a few options that will work:

Option 1. Slip the clutch a bit, this is not the most cost-effective way of doing it because you will constantly be burning up clutches, which could cost a tenner (I'm learning to speak British) or two.

Option 2. Pedal modulation. Maintain maximum pedal pressure without spinning the tires

Option 3. Better gearing. You could go out and change the final drive to go for higher speed and still maintain excellent acceleration.

Option 4. Bigger tires. There are some big honkin' (thats real english) tyres (spelled the Brittish way) in this world, real honkin' big.

All of these will allow you to use the "my wanker is bigger than yours" approch to meeting new friends in the law enforcement community. (I am almost an expert in the Brittish language)

[Edited on 13/8/04 by derf]


JoelP - 13/8/04 at 09:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by derf
All of these will allow you to use the "my wanker is bigger than yours" approch to meeting new friends in the law enforcement community. (I am almost an expert in the Brittish language)

[Edited on 13/8/04 by derf]


er... i think you might still have wanker a little out of context there!

as you say, there are ways to increase grip but i think viper wasnt completely serious. and of course, if you increase grip then the power is no longer greater than the grip, and hence more is needed! so he's right really


sgraber - 13/8/04 at 09:20 PM

Somebody should find a way to put THIS into a car.... Enough power then?

Graber


bike_power - 14/8/04 at 07:32 AM

You can never have too much power, it's like socks, you buy a set number and a few months later you're sure you've got less than you bought, so buy some more. This happens maybe twice a year . . . at the end of the year you still fell you've got no more socks than you started with . . .

If I take off £1500 from the cost of my engine to allow for the fact that I got a 6 speed sequential gearbox with it, each one of my bhp has cost me £11.40. Once the turbo goes on each bhp will have cost me £13.30.


Trev Borg - 14/8/04 at 12:06 PM

Ouch

That hits a Yorkshireman where it hurts most !

(his pocket)


mad4x4 - 16/8/04 at 05:33 PM

Cost per bhp = £0.00

Engine was free from a mate

I suppose the haed gaket and the carbs could count .......