shortie
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 04:36 PM |
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Fireblade fuel pump
Does anyone happen to know whether a CBR600 fuel pump is the same as the Fireblade one, I reckon it might be but just wondered if anyone knows for
sure.
ta,
Rich.
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colibriman
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 05:17 PM |
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try get a number off it....I've got an 893 pump here I can check against.
Colin
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shortie
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 06:28 PM |
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Just out cof interest Colin, do you sell the pumps?? and if you do how much!
Rich.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 06:29 PM |
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Im pretty sure they are the same part, Im sure Ive heard people mention using ones off CBR600s before, amongst others (I think a lot of large capacity
carbed engines use the same one, made by Mitsubishi).
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shortie
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 06:32 PM |
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Thanks Chris, I think they are too but I will get the number and check with the local bike shop just to be sure, easy enough just to ring them and ask
I guess.
thanks,
Rich.
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ReMan
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 07:19 PM |
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http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/default.asp
This may help?
www.plusnine.co.uk
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colibriman
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 11:30 PM |
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Hi Rich,
I only have one blade pump at the moment, to go with the 893cc engine I have.
I have other pumps (kawasaki ZX6R I think) though which I'm sure would do fine.... It would be 20 quid plus post. Let me know if you want one..
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shortie
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| posted on 12/2/05 at 11:55 PM |
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Thanks Colin,
Will let you know.
Rich.
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Peteff
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 12:05 AM |
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I can't see any numbers but the pump on my NTV looks like the one on the ZX9R engine from Colin. They look like they would be a direct swap.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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shortie
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 12:09 AM |
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Thanks Pete, I think I'll get hold of one from a CBR600 or ZX9 as it sounds like they are all the same and I will check the flow rate anyway.
thanks,
Rich.
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 12:09 AM |
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most of the ones ive seen seem to be mitsubishi ones, but one engine had an oddly small pump - i think it was the standard faser one. Worked just fine
though.  the connectors were all the same too, for all of them!
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chrisf
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 12:32 AM |
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Regarding the fuel pump, I got this one.
A huge fuel filter was included, which I think doubles as pressure regulator. The whole combination was yanked out os a Westfield.
Is this a good choice? Long ago, I think I remeber mention of the bike fuel pump being ideal. At the time, I was far from ready!
--Chris
[Edited on 13/2/05 by chrisf]
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Peteff
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 09:15 AM |
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small pump - i think it was the standard faser one.
They were fitted to prime the float bowls to cure a starting problem which Diversions (early version same engine) suffer from according to my bike
mechanic friend at the local shop.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 12:00 PM |
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Chris
What youve got there is a solid state pump and regulator. You need the regulator because the pump will otherwise provide too much pressure that will
overcome the carbs, and it isnt pressure sensitive so will continue pumping regardless of what pressure the fuel in the line is. The bike pumps are
pressure sensitive and only pump to a couple of PSI, once the fuel in the line reaches this pressure they start to slow down or stop, hence no need
for a regulator.
The solid state pump / regulator method does work in most instances but some people have found that in order to get the pressure low enough for the
bike carbs (which need a lower pressure than most car carbs) they have to really wind down the regulator, and doing this stifles the flow rate to an
extent that there isnt enough fuel reaching the carbs at high RPM, making it lean out and not run properly.
In conclusion, for simplicity and ease of install Id go for a bike pump every time, but if you dont want to shell out any more cash then what you have
there will probably work fine.
quote:
Originally posted by chrisf
Regarding the fuel pump, I got this one.
A huge fuel filter was included, which I think doubles as pressure regulator. The whole combination was yanked out os a Westfield.
Is this a good choice? Long ago, I think I remeber mention of the bike fuel pump being ideal. At the time, I was far from ready!
--Chris
[Edited on 13/2/05 by chrisf]
[Edited on 13/2/05 by ChrisGamlin]
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chrisf
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 04:58 PM |
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Plug and Play?
Thanks for the reply. So the bike pump is a plug and play bit with no worries? Seems worth the small bit of cash.
Do carbed motors need a fuel pump from a carbed motor or can the use one from an injected motor? Do the injected motors use high pressure?
--Thanks again, Chris
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 08:02 PM |
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You can only use a carbed pump with carbs, they run at around 2-3psi rather than 40-60psi of injection pumps.
The blade pump just needs its feed wired up to the ignition so it pumps up as soon as the ignition comes on, but other than that it just pumps as and
when required so is nice and simple and doesnt need adjusting etc.
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Avoneer
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 08:31 PM |
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Hi Chris,
What spec pump will I need?
Cheers,
Pat...
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 13/2/05 at 10:14 PM |
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Any standard bike pump off a big capacity bike will do, as said above they are mostly one and the same pump used by the majority of the major
manufacturers and don't cost much second hand
cheers
Chris
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