Paul G
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 11:13 AM |
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No engine number for SVA
Hi all,
Just filling in my SVA application form for my 1998 R1 engined MK Indy, I got the engine off MK and have a receipt for it but the engine number has
been ground off. I queried this with MK and thay said it was fine - they get the engines from Holland and a lot are like that. They said If I was
unhappy theyd gladly refund me but by the time I found out, it was fitted in the car.
I'm just wondering how do I get proof of engine age for the SVA? Would proving its the 4XV model and showing literature to correlate that with
the age suffice? How would I prove its the 4XV model - are there any markings for this anywhere?
Cheers
Paul
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shortie
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 11:17 AM |
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I'm afraid I think you will have to meet the latest cat emissions test.
I would suggest that it sounds a bit dodgy as why would you grind the engine number off regardless of where the engine comes from!!
Rich.
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Paul G
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 11:27 AM |
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I thought it was a bit dodgy but MK assured me it was fine - said it happens sometimes on stolen recovered bikes. Latest emmisions tests doesnt sound
good though
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Hellfire
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 11:32 AM |
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If you don't have an engine number, they'll just test your car on the stricter emissions. Even if you had the engine number, they'd
still test you on the strict emissions cos its post 1995.
You could always try proving the engine model and showing them corresponding literature but why go through the hassle?
I can understand your concern though.
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smart51
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 11:33 AM |
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No engine number is no problem. My R1 engine was delivered with no number.
The DVLA say that you don't need one to register the car and VOSA say you don't need one to pass SVA. The only reason you need on is to
prove that your engine is older than 1995. Your 98 engine will have to go through the CAT emissions test anyway.
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Paul G
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 11:41 AM |
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Nice one fellas - thats put my mind at rest! Everything else is finished - just waiting for my exhaust from MK (its taking a while) and I'll
hopefully be on the road in no time!
Cheers
paul
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 12:05 PM |
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On the face of it it does seem dodgy and you could only imagine they'd be ground off by a thief to stop identification but I think there is a
kinda-legitimate reason for doing it in certain circumstances.
The way I understand it (and correct me if Im wrong anyone!), if the bike has been stolen / recovered the insurance companies insist the breaker sells
the parts individually and not as components that could be used to build the bike up again, so basically they want to ensure the bike wont be
reinsured and the industry would have to pay out on it again. So theoretically the breakers should sell all the engine components seperately (crank,
clutch, electrics etc) as spares rather than a complete unit, and then dispose with the block, but instead they grind off the engine number so the
insurance company couldnt ever trace it back to the breaker (who should have destroyed the block).
Still not 100% pure as white, but not exactly serious compared to the thought of actually buying stolen goods.
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ned
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 12:17 PM |
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what if someone had an engine that'd had a rod out of the block, could they not give you a number to stamp on the engine from their dead one?
It could be good if it was from the 'correct' age engine.
Check the legitmacy of this though, I don't know the legalities.. but who'd ever know?!
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Andy W
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| posted on 20/10/05 at 03:53 PM |
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It depends where you are in the country, I know in Hull the V.I.B. inspect the car prior to issuing a reg number. They will try to establish the
correct engine no, with acid etc. If they can't and they're happy with your story about the engine, it will be stamped with a V.I.B.
identification number. You'll also have to go through this if you get stopped by the police and the vehicle checked.
Andy
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