GJ Warren
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| posted on 21/5/03 at 12:30 PM |
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As an experienced bike racer, who has driven most makes of bike box Neutral is normally in between 1st and 2nd irrespective from which side you shift
so one can always shift into neutral from both 1st and 2nd the same is true for shiffting outta neutral. ceebmoj any update on how much it will cost
to ship it out to malta as i definitley want a system too. P.S. if the 1st to 2nd shift isn't made hard enough under hard load bike gearboxes
can "jump outta gear and into neutral. Is there any opinon on my post of using the Kick Stand input on the ECU in order to get a momentary pause
in power enabling a perfect clutchless upshift.
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ceebmoj
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| posted on 21/5/03 at 12:45 PM |
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Hi
The state of play right now for the device
In this first version there will be no form of rev control it will simply select the gear. The system will only go through the box in the following
sequence 0-1-2-3-4-5-6 it will no go from 0-2 or 2-0 only 2-1-0.
I will get the first one posted of to Jim early next weak and let him install it on his car then if he is willing to I will ask him to post a breaf
review of his findings hear then you can all base your judgment on what he says of the device. I will then if you are all still interested start to
sell the devices to any one who is interested.
Postage to Malta I have not checked yet but I don’t see it being any thing more than 10 at the absolute max although I have not checked.
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GJ Warren
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| posted on 21/5/03 at 03:56 PM |
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Hi Ceebmoj, how should i send the cash to you. As i would like a system asap.
Thanks in Advance
Glen
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loafersmate
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| posted on 21/5/03 at 04:36 PM |
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Another interested party here, shift lights and gear change.
Cheers
Ben
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MK Dude
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 posted on 22/5/03 at 11:03 PM |
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Push Button Gear Change
Would love to purchase one of these and try on my CBR 1000 engined MK. PLEASE GET IN TOUCH IT SOUNDS GREAT.
Ian
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 23/5/03 at 01:42 PM |
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ceebmoj, not sure if this
diagram will help you at all, if you're not registered on the Yahoo BEC list I think you might have to register in order to get at the
file, its basically a wiring diagram for a gear indicator system.
Chris
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steve faunch
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| posted on 23/5/03 at 09:21 PM |
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if the system workes i will deffinetly have one off you
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steve faunch
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| posted on 23/5/03 at 09:23 PM |
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excuse the spelling im having one of those days
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ceebmoj
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| posted on 28/5/03 at 11:54 AM |
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Hi this is just a quick up date for any one who is interested.
I will be posting the first device out by the end of the weak with any luck to Jim he has said that he will fit it to his car and then Wright up a
short review of what he thinks of the device then if you are all still interested I will take orders and build up some more for sending out. I will be
as keen as the rest of you to see what he has to say.
However unfortunately the price has crept up since I originally posted hear with the idea. We are now looking at a cost of £40 + P&P with out the
solenoids witch should cost in the region of £3~4 for both of them from a scrap yard (SARB 900 starter motor 1990)
The cost has risen for several reason but mainly because the sockets that I planed to use have gone up in price but coupled with a number of other
components being more expensive than I remembered them being. Witch brought the total manufacturing cost up to £30. I have then added on £10 for the
time it takes me to build the device witch is around 3 hours for the hardware and a one off 10 houres for the software development.
I hope that the raid in cost will not put any of you off two much and I hope that if after jim has tested the device you are all still interested.
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MK Dude
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 posted on 29/5/03 at 04:57 PM |
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Gear Change
Still Interested.
Ian
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iceT
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| posted on 4/7/03 at 10:37 AM |
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Jim's review?
Any follow up on this?
I am interested to read about Jim's review on this as I am about to build my own BEC.
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ceebmoj
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| posted on 4/7/03 at 12:31 PM |
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Hi all
I have had a number of problems sourcing components (I received the wrong order of PICs twice this is very unusual). however I now have very thing
together and I will be posting this to Jim this weekend so with any luck he should receive every thing during next weak some time.
Hopefully he will like what he gets and then I can make any improvements that he recommends to me. I have also get a web sight together so I will be
ready to take orders if and when it passes jims approval.
Once again I am sorry for all the delays.
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Tudor (Ted) Miron
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 01:46 PM |
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So how did all this work out? Any news?
Ted
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tony9876
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| posted on 16/12/03 at 03:34 PM |
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Smelt a bit iffy from the off to me(i'm not paranoid its just everyone says i am).
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SeaBass
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| posted on 18/12/03 at 08:27 PM |
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Ceebmoj, did you not build a system like this for the two bike engined cars you have already built??
Or am I wrong?
Cheers
JC
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ceebmoj
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| posted on 19/12/03 at 08:50 AM |
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Hi
I built one for Jim who last time I spoke to him was happy with the results (was 4 or 6 months ago) I believe he started a thread on hear or maybe he
just posted in this thread about the results. Either way he seamed happy with the results. From what he was saying to me he left the manual shift
connected as well as adding the electronic system as he found with his gear box it some times had problems selecting neutral.
I have also used them on two other cars witch have now been sold and the new owners seem happy with the system. Although this was on the previous
design witch used an industrial servo instead of solenoids. (I am considering going back to this system as you get guaranteed selection of neutral)
although the servo is significantly more expensive then the two solenoids.
I am at present putting another one together for another user of this web sight who should get the system early in January so I guess that when he
finishes his car he can comment on what he thinks.
I am happy to make more however as I think I sad before it is more convenient if I can make a batch of 3 or more rather than doing them in 1s as I can
then justify making a PCB as opposed to a strip board model. also as there is now a shortage 90-91 SARB 900’s (very easy to remove the starter motor
and hence the solenoid) and other SARBs as they use the same BOSH starter motor (cant remember the part number at present) I would have difficulty’s
getting all the solenoids at a good price. You do not have to use the solenoids on the SARB however they are convenient size and have about a 4 cm
travel and a limit switch built in. however I have been looking in to a ford replacement as the circuit is designed to power any solenoid that pulls
up to a 30A sustained current so if any body else has any other ideas for a source for the solenoids out the drop me a line.
Last time I looked a 91 SARB 900 starter motor cost £20 from the local scrappy.
Also if any one is interested it is 50 for the system + either 6 P&P for a non insure delivery as a parcel or + P&P for any other type of
postage you want. I would recommend using an insured or traceable option for postage having recently had a parcel go missing.
Blake
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