a4gom
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 09:34 PM |
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'05 R1 advice req on Oil Gauges
Looking at installing oil pressure and oil temp gauges on my R1 what range do I need on the gauges? most importantly whats the max psi and deg C I
should need.
I'm led to believe there is a bolt on each end of the motor you can take out (according to the manual this is where yamaha would test pressure)
what thread / adaptor will I need to install my gauges here, I'm looking at a mechanical racetech dual gauge if it makes any difference.
TIA
Andy
Andy
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 09:46 PM |
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here ya go - this will help
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mediabloke
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 09:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by a4gom
Looking at installing oil pressure and oil temp gauges on my R1 what range do I need on the gauges? most importantly whats the max psi and deg C I
should need.
Andy - If it's the same as the '05 model, the service manual for the '98-01 model gives this oil pressure when hot:
45 kPa at 1,100 r/min
(0.45 kgf/cm2 at 1,100 r/min)
If I find any details about the size of the hole, I'll post back. Hope this helps..?
[Edit - beat me to it!  ]
[Edited on 8/10/08 by mediabloke]
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hicost blade
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 09:51 PM |
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The Thread should be an M10x1.0 for the oil temp to check measure the od should be near to 10mm and hold it up to the light to see if the threads are
parallel (this needs to be in the oil stream eg the sump or oil cooler) Racetech electronic senders are M10x1.0 as it happens so thats good. The oil
pressure is usually 1/8npt so you may need to buy a tap, but this is not a problem because M10x1.0 and 1/8npt are very close so there is no drilling
required just run a tap into it. As for pressures I have no idea but Racetech do one to 100psi and Revotec do two one to 100 and one to 150psi so all
bases are covered. Revotec are doing a deal on black faced gauges at the moment so it may be worth a ring to them. Hope this helps you out a little
Dave
[Edited on 8/10/08 by hicost blade]
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adithorp
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 10:14 PM |
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I've got a racetech mechanical presure gauge. 0-100psi and it runs up to 80+ at revs when the engine isn't fully hot. Mines plumbed into
the oil gallery. the thread is either M14 or M16 I think and you can get adapters to fit (I got a set that Durite do. Part No 0-523-98. Its a set of
3. 1/8th NPTF to M14, M16, M18.)
adrian
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a4gom
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 09:10 AM |
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Cheers for the reply chaps I'm happy with the 100psi then but what about temp? Is it likely to get over 120 deg C?
Andy
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adithorp
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 09:33 AM |
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Sorry, can't help with that one as I've not got an oil temp guage.
adrian
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ko_racer
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 10:16 AM |
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On track with an air/oil cooler ours sit at around 100C, but you really need one to show up to 130/140C for oil though.
[Edited on 9/10/08 by ko_racer]
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a4gom
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| posted on 3/11/08 at 05:02 PM |
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Adi do you have any pics of it plumbed in before I remove the wrong bolt  I'm assuming you have a 5VY, '05 engine fitted?
I have bought a dual mechanical gauge, I am hoping to attach the pressure to one of the holes and the temperature to the hole at the other end?
All subject to adaptors and room.
The temp has a sealed capillary with quite a large bulb on the end which would need to go into the gallery, do you know if there is plenty of room in
there? if not I suppose i'll be making something up from a series of adaptors?
Do you know which of the adaptors you used / can you confirm what the thread is?
The temp has a 3/8 BSP thread  ,
I haven't bought the capillary for the pressure yet but would assume they are all standard at 1/8 npt?
Andy
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adithorp
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| posted on 3/11/08 at 11:37 PM |
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I had a look for pictures but it turns out that I don't have any and without stripping off the under-trays its near imposible to take one. If
you look at the engine you'll find 2 identical plugs, one on each end with an allen key fitting. I've had a look through my box of odds
and ends and can't find either the old plug or the remaining adapters (I bought a set of 3) to find the thread size. The pressure capillarys are
normally 1/8th NPT (mine is).
I've no idea whether there's room in the gallery to fit the temp sensor but I'd not want to put it in there. I wouldn't want
to risk restricting the oil flow. I'd be looking for some way to fit it into the sump but that would take some modification.
Sorry not to be more help.
adrian
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adithorp
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| posted on 4/11/08 at 04:47 PM |
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I've found the leftover plugs.
The gallery is M16x1.5 thread and the plugs (on my '06 5VY) are sivver, slightly domed with an 8mm allen key hole.
The set I got for the adapter was Durite number 0-523-98
adrian
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a4gom
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| posted on 4/11/08 at 05:12 PM |
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thanks adrian thats great
Andy
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