minimanred
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 07:36 PM |
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BEC Gear change
what is everyones favorite method of changing up and down the gearbox?
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Dillinger1977
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 07:40 PM |
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i havent built mine yet, but will (hopefully) be taking the racing game method of Back=up, fwd=down.
-Rog
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Lightning
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 07:58 PM |
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Had a courtsey car which was a tiptronic Corsa (yes they do exist) You pushed to go up the box. Bloody awful car. Kept pulling instead of pushing.
Unnatural. As the car accelarates (very slowly in the corsa) you should be pushed back and hence pull the stick back and visa versa
Steve
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timvangemert
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 08:00 PM |
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When you accelerate the BHP's will push you backwards into your seat. When you decelerate you will be forced into your seatbelts.
So downshifting is pushing and up-shifting is pulling.
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OX
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 08:16 PM |
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yip pull back to go up the box push to go down 
but what do you do when you have paddels behind the steering wheel,do you pull back on the left or right to go up the box
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Lightning
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 08:19 PM |
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mine is up on the right down on the left.
Steve
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 08:40 PM |
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My car has a tiptronic gearbox push forward to go up gearbox,pull back to go down, so this is the way Ive set up my MK
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colibriman
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| posted on 8/5/05 at 09:06 PM |
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mine is forward for up.....but would prefer it the other way - just the way the cable length forced it to be
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tadltd
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 01:04 AM |
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It's easy to make it go the other way, Colin. You only need to mount the cable above/below one or other pivot (depending on your set-up).
I could have explained if you'd come over to help with the blimmin' wiring on the LMP!  
Steve.
Best Regards,
Steve.
www.turnerautosport.com
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smart51
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 06:43 AM |
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All smarts are push forwards for up.
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colibriman
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 06:52 AM |
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quote:
It's easy to make it go the other way, Colin. You only need to mount the cable above/below one or other pivot (depending on your set-up).
I know Steve...just there's no room on other side of pivot either end...
I was late back from Aberdeen...and so knackered I couldn't move 
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 08:15 AM |
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Definitely pull back for up, going with the acceleration. I guess like anything its whatever you get used to though, but its always best to go with
the majority cos if you are used to changing gear the other way, you're not likely to find a fellow BEC owner that will let you have a quick go
in their car! 
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Peteff
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 09:09 AM |
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All smarts are push forwards for up.
Which proves they are not that smart after all. Back for up. You still have to go forward for first though, why can't neutral be last ?.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 09:23 AM |
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I imagine that they don't put it last for safety reasons, if neutral was last, then you'd have to know which gear you were in when
changing down the box aiming for 1st, otherwise you'd run the risk of hitting neutral and so losing engine braking. As it is, once you're
out of neutral, you can't accidentally select it with normal gear lever movements.
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Coose
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 10:43 AM |
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Left for up. Oh sorry, you mean one of those archaic gear levers in the transmission tunnel!?
Back for up..... Tried both and prefer it for the reasons mentioned....
Spin 'er off Well...
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Hellfire
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 11:31 AM |
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Last Indy was back for up, this re-built one will be forward for up. Should be quite interesting
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 11:42 AM |
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.....and I predict after a piston exits stage left, the next engine will be back for up again
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 12:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGamlin
Definitely pull back for up, going with the acceleration. I guess like anything its whatever you get used to though, but its always best to go with
the majority cos if you are used to changing gear the other way, you're not likely to find a fellow BEC owner that will let you have a quick go
in their car!
Hellfires done it this way ,so they can let me have a drive of it when they have finished
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Alez
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| posted on 9/5/05 at 12:22 PM |
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I've had both. First one was pull for up and I found it very natural. I should mention that normal "H" gearboxes are in fact
arranged that way (I'm talking about 1 to 2 and 3 to 4, where the stick moves on a straight line). Then second one was push for up. I found it
unnatural and still do (I'm now used to it). I now have to think twice when I drive my other car (a Golf) and actually I've downshifted by
mistake a couple of times in the Golf because of this. This had never happened when I had the first car. I would like to change to pull for up in the
future, I find it way more intuitive.
Cheers,
Alex
[Edited on 9/5/05 by Alez]
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tks
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| posted on 16/5/05 at 01:51 PM |
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could the reason not be
`that pulling force is rougher then pushing..???feeling??
i mean an bit enthausiastic when you have race spirit and then maybe thinggs can go wrong?/
TKS
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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colibriman
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| posted on 16/5/05 at 02:28 PM |
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that pulling force is rougher then pushing..???feeling??
i mean an bit enthausiastic when you have race spirit and then maybe thinggs can go wrong?/
TKS
I tend to think not....during racing at the weekend I was banging the lever forward with waaaay too much enthusiasm..... heck it was great....!!
didnt break anything....the car performed fantastically....
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 16/5/05 at 02:35 PM |
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What / where have you been racing Colin?
BTW, I still have that oil pressure hose in my bag, I will get round to posting it!
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colibriman
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| posted on 16/5/05 at 04:29 PM |
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Chris,
It was sprints at Kames circuit here in Ayrshire.... Saturday anticlockwise , sunday clockwise...it's like 2 completely different places !
I'm registered in the scottish sprint championships, trouble is I'm in the same class as busa's..holding my own...'only'
3 seconds behind the nearest one
got your loom bit too...still not found the postbox yet either..
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 16/5/05 at 05:49 PM |
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Sounds good fun!
I'll do you a deal, Ill visit the postbox sometime this week if you do the same
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Stu16v
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| posted on 16/5/05 at 09:06 PM |
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So who voted for option number two then?
Dont just build it.....make it!
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