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chrisg

posted on 11/12/03 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
Car identities

If I buy a crashed Indy (write-off), with, say, a Triumph engine in it, can I just build another car with a blade engine, not using any parts from the original car and transfer the number plates to the new car and thus avoid the SVA and registration?

What do you think?

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Chris





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Peteff

posted on 11/12/03 at 08:13 PM Reply With Quote
Definitely not Chris !!!

You can only do that with Duttons.

yours, Pete.

P.S. get me a wooden spoon will you.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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JoelP

posted on 11/12/03 at 08:13 PM Reply With Quote
reality and the law are probably different things here. I think that if the car is very seriously modified, it is eligable for SVA, but then how will they know if it is modified?

the main problem will be if it is recorded as written off, as all newly repaired vehicles must be inspected to help combat ringing.

great idea though! i suspect swapping the chassis number over is a good start, and also registering the new engine into it.

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chrisg

posted on 11/12/03 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
What if I did it and sold it to someone else as a "turnkey" car and kept quiet?

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Chris





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Jon Ison

posted on 11/12/03 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
chris i'd worked this one out after your 1st post, you know the answer but a suttle chris like way of getting a bit of info out,

think they call it "spin" in political circles.






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JoelP

posted on 11/12/03 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
lol maybe set up a company called Superb Pilfered Deathtraps to vend them thru? it would have a catchy acronym then...
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chrisg

posted on 11/12/03 at 10:16 PM Reply With Quote
Was that the sound of a penny dropping Joel!!

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Chris





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JoelP

posted on 11/12/03 at 10:31 PM Reply With Quote
probably quite a few pennies, not sure how many, but enough to smashed me car and nearly have me twat leg off! Having said that i could well happen to me...

just thought pete was being his usual absurd self, banging on about wooden spoons...

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chrisg

posted on 11/12/03 at 10:36 PM Reply With Quote
The moral is

"Let's be careful out there"

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Chris





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Peteff

posted on 11/12/03 at 11:43 PM Reply With Quote
It's a common practise to "rebody" a Dutton Joel, but it does wind some people up. Read some old posts some time and you'll see what I mean.

yours, Pete.





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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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PeetBee

posted on 12/12/03 at 08:42 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
It's a common practise to "rebody" a Dutton Joel, but it does wind some people up. Read some old posts some time and you'll see what I mean.

yours, Pete.


humph, mutter mutter Duttons mutter

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timf

posted on 12/12/03 at 08:48 AM Reply With Quote
see PEET has a BEE in his bonnet about it at the mention of it
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Peteff

posted on 12/12/03 at 11:55 AM Reply With Quote
Got one on the line.

Right, reel him in.

See what I mean Joel.

yours, Pete.

Wooden spoon is the preferred utensil for sh1t stirring.

[Edited on 12/12/03 by Peteff]





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PeetBee

posted on 12/12/03 at 02:50 PM Reply With Quote
I think I went about it in the wrong way, I bought a Dutton and scrapped it so I could reuse the body. Ooops!

Well, at least the one I bought one wasn't registered.

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andyps

posted on 12/12/03 at 03:37 PM Reply With Quote
Chris - all you would be doing is replacing the chassis (same as replacing the bodyshell for a "normal" car) and subsequently replacing the engine - don't see why you couldn't do it. It happens a lot with old minis and MG's etc.





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JoelP

posted on 12/12/03 at 03:42 PM Reply With Quote
its a bit like an old rock band really, all the members leave one at a time and get replaced, and eventually none of the original dudes are left. But they still get called the same name.
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chrisg

posted on 12/12/03 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andyps
Chris - all you would be doing is replacing the chassis (same as replacing the bodyshell for a "normal" car) and subsequently replacing the engine - don't see why you couldn't do it. It happens a lot with old minis and MG's etc.


Sorry can't hear you for this "Ringing" in my ears

Cheers

Chris





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JoelP

posted on 12/12/03 at 07:18 PM Reply With Quote
to completely spill the beans on a good idea i had, imagine if you had a nice SVA compliant little kitcar. Stick a chassis number on it, and an engine, and get it tested. Then, once passed, chop out the bar with the chassis number on, and sell the engine, the bar and number, the V5 and the plates for a tidy sum of money. Then go back to your original car, get a new bar welded in, new chassis plates, new engine etc and put it in for SVA again.

Not sure how much you could sell the 'kit' for but surely there would be a market for such a product?

not that i would condone SVA avoidance anyway as safe cars are always a good start...

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steve m

posted on 12/12/03 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
my old boss used to have 2 mg midgets
one for him and one for wife
every year he would mot one of them twice, with each others reg plates, and chassis no on a plate just pop riveted on

and the best bit was he always used the same mot station within 2 weeks for both mot's

the tester must have tunnell vision or a very bad memory

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theconrodkid

posted on 12/12/03 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
2 duttons on e bay for £49 at the mo





who cares who wins
pass the pork pies

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chrisg

posted on 13/12/03 at 11:54 AM Reply With Quote





Can you spot the difference?

Cheers

Chris





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Metal Hippy

posted on 13/12/03 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
About all I can spot is that one has different wing mirrors...

What have I missed...?





Cock off or cock on. You choose.

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blueshift

posted on 13/12/03 at 05:13 PM Reply With Quote
have a look at the registration plates.
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Metal Hippy

posted on 13/12/03 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
Hang on then....

[sarcasm]About all I can spot is that one has different wing mirrors...

What have I missed...? [/sarcasm]







Cock off or cock on. You choose.

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chrisg

posted on 13/12/03 at 06:16 PM Reply With Quote
Morally (and Legally) this is wrong.

Woodster was sold the orange car as a "turnkey" by Sports Power Drive.

That in it's self is reprehensable, misrepresentation.

The fact that SPD bought the blue car and used NO parts from it to build the new car means that it's not re-chassisied.

It's a Ringer, bought for it's identity.

Woodsters car has never been SVA'd or legally registered. He has been driving the car illegally without knowing it. If he'd had an accident his insurance would have been invalid.

Add to this that the dodgy prop nearly took his foot off, the wishbones we're on upside-down and the wrong hand, the front springs were on the back and vice-versa and the hand-brake was crudely bodged.

Moreover SPD agreed to have it fixed and then refused to pay, the whole thing is a disaster for Woodster and an important lesson for everyone else.

Cheers

Chris

Alledgedly(Happy Mike?)

[Edited on 14/12/03 by chrisg]





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