SJL
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:09 PM |
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Re the throttle stop behind the throttle pedal there is a bolt which acts as the the stop
Here you go
Get a longer bolt in there to restrict the rpm 
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veld
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Very good solution ....
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SJL
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:19 PM |
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I hope it works for you
Just another thought have are you running the reverse gearbox? It might be worth putting some sound deadening down the transmission tunnel as well.
Although I own a Megabusa I have not got the reverse box and have only been in one that had one fitted. I was too busy being scared to notice any
noises 
Actually thinking about what Scudderfish mentioned we have restrictors that have to be fitted to bikes over here to limit them to 33bhp. Will see if I
can find the details
Found it
http://www.fiinternational.com/default.asp
It appears they are the sole UK seller for these kits. Glad I passed my bike test years ago 
[Edited on 15/1/12 by SJL]
[Edited on 15/1/12 by SJL]
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veld
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:38 PM |
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In france the Hayabusa until 2008 , to stop the power at 100 cv (because we are probably the only country in the world where the Bike are limited to
100 cv), use metal restrictor to put in the admission.
I have passed an order i want to know if i decrease the power of the engine i decrease the noise too....
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veld
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:45 PM |
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Thanks for the links.
Maybe it's possible to passed an order to a shop ?
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SJL
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:48 PM |
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I will call them for you tomorrow if would like and see if they will sell a kit to you and get some more information from them.
Will report back during the day on Monday
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veld
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:00 PM |
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marvelous....
Thanks
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:29 PM |
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My hovercraft is full of eels
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:30 PM |
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Hi veld,
Most power restrictors are just plates that fit between the injector bodies and the head. They will doubtless drop the noise but as this is just a
temporary mod I'd think twice before spending £179 + delivery costs.
The Hayabusa 100cv french restriction is made via the ECU. Cutting a blue wire generally liberates the other 80 or so horsepower.
If you really want to spend some money I reckon you'd be better off buying a db meter from Maplin or another supplier to measure the noise level
and check what the various mods are giving you.
And well done for taking on the french administration... Good luck, and I'll keep you posted once I've spoken to my engine man.
Mike
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veld
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 09:35 PM |
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The Hayabusa 100cv french restriction is made via the ECU but until 2008 there is a restriction mécanic too....
I have buy a db meter but for the moment the result is not very good......
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HappyFather
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 11:07 PM |
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Hello,
I can't help much with this but I'm curious. Why are you taking the UTAC registration if the car was road-legal in the UK? Can't you
import it and get French plates after import?
One day I'll have to register the kit I'm building to be road-legal in Portugal and I was told the best way was to get it road-legal in
the UK and then hire an import company (that knows the inside of things) to take care of the import paperwork. And that would be cheaper than doing it
here. We also have the 77Db noise limit but, according to the law, it can be in 3rd gear (depends on horse power of the car).
Good luck with the noise reduction and the paperwork!
HappyFather
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 11:08 PM |
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My Suzuki SV650S had a microswitch in the gear box which was activated by second gear which limited the revs for the drive by tests, a mod to remove
the switch was published and I disconnected it.
Would it be possible to restrict the revs using a rev limiter in your ECU by rigging something similar.
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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veld
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 07:11 AM |
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Hello HappyFather, in europe when a car is road legal in one of the country , it's road legal in every country, but not in france, i have a V5
but i need to passed the test of UTAC witch is very restrictive, are you sure it can be in 3 speed in Portugal ?
That for why it's very difficult to import , BEC, R500 or Ariel ATOM in France.
The idea for the switch in the gear Box is very interesting, i don't know if it's possible whith the Megabusa....
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bobinspain
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 09:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by HappyFather
Hello,
I can't help much with this but I'm curious. Why are you taking the UTAC registration if the car was road-legal in the UK? Can't you
import it and get French plates after import?
One day I'll have to register the kit I'm building to be road-legal in Portugal and I was told the best way was to get it road-legal in
the UK and then hire an import company (that knows the inside of things) to take care of the import paperwork. And that would be cheaper than doing it
here. We also have the 77Db noise limit but, according to the law, it can be in 3rd gear (depends on horse power of the car).
Good luck with the noise reduction and the paperwork!
HappyFather
That's what I'm doing here in Spain. Using a specialist importer to get my car through ITV here. The fact that it's IVA'd in
UK doesn't mean it gets a free-ride here. The noise and emissions limits are similar, but slightly more restrictive than UK. 91dB at 50cm and
3850rpm. Llamda 0.7-1.03. CO 0.35 for post 86 vehicles. 3rd brake light, central rear-view mirror, chassis number stamped into chassis, (not on a
plate) etc etc.
There's an engineer's report, number plates, ITV (mot), trafico (police) fees, road-tax, and the importer's fee (785e). All in all,
it'll be around 1,300 euros.
The importer (carimportinspain) takes care of any minor mod's required. For instance, he got an Ultima GTR successfully passed by strapping a
couple of cats on temporarily and then removing and refitting the cans once through the test (and whilst still at the testing station).
I thought we were all in the EU and these national rules didn't apply. Not so I'm afraid. Any opportunity to make money from the motorist
is regarded as fair game. 
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HappyFather
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 10:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bobinspain
I thought we were all in the EU and these national rules didn't apply. Not so I'm afraid. Any opportunity to make money from the motorist
is regarded as fair game.
In Portugal, after having the IVA'ed car, I'll have to pay the road tax, car tax, plates, importer's fee... Not sure if I'll
need mods. But it's part of the game.
About rules not being equal to all EU... They are. Rules are that large scale approvals granted in one country are valid to all others.
One-offs (home-built) instead of receiving a "EU Certificate" receive a "National Certificate". Each country can specify local
legislation to grant the "National Certificate", and I'm not even sure if there are any EU-imposed limits on these.
All the law (from 2007) was designed inspired on the UK national law, since it was the best covering major areas. The part of the law that allows the
"National Certificate" allows the UK to retain almost the same standards as before (in SVA times) and other countries to make it easier or
harder to approve home-builts. Most countries opted to make it hard (but it's not impossible), by requiring basically the same standards from a
home-built that are requested from a new large-production car.
The problem with having a "National Certificate" is that, when importing the car to another EU country, the reception country isn't
forced to accept the certificate. They can either accept it, refuse it or request additional tests before making a decision. And with this degree of
freedom in accepting a "NC", that's why it's best to give the work to a specialized company than to try to do it on your
own...
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veld
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 10:55 AM |
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The test of UTAC
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SJL
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 12:13 PM |
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I have just spoken to FI International and they do not think that the kit will work at reducing the noise for you.
Part of the kit is a throttle body restriction and a different throttle stop.
They did advise me that the kit is actually made in Germany and have given me the company details as FI will not sell any products outside of the
UK
http://www.alphatechnik.de/
The guy I spoke to thinks they might be able to help you if you are stuck.
Hope that helps
Steve
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bobinspain
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 12:23 PM |
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Happyfather
If all the testing centres 'sang from the same hymn sheet' it'd be a start. However, here, we have the situation where certain test
centres are favoured for their leniency over others by punters and a 'mobile ITV' centre which visits the remote areas is better still.
Add that to 'which side of the bed did the tester get out of' and you have the dog's breakfast situation currently in force here.
Little wonder that a lot immigrants chose to drive rot-boxes that have never been anywhere near a test-station.
I know of a poster with a GBS Zero who's moved heaven and earth administratively to try and get it road registered to no avail. He's based
down in Extremadura, and despite having spoken to 'the great and the good,' plus any number of 'fixers,' palm-greasers'
and those 'in the know,' he was no further forward after months of effort. Serendipity found him carimportinspain whose website says
'Kit cars-no problem.'
As usual, it's a case of not what you know, but who.
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veld
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 12:23 PM |
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Thank you Steve,
i will contact the society in Germany, maybe they have a solution....
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:{THC}:YosamiteSam
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 05:53 PM |
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i think in future anyone building would find it easier to buy a 2nd hand car already registered then modify it keeping within the limits if poss. you
already have the legal papers for being roadworthy so it would be more sensible i think
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bobinspain
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| posted on 16/1/12 at 06:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by :{THC}:YosamiteSam
i think in future anyone building would find it easier to buy a 2nd hand car already registered then modify it keeping within the limits if poss. you
already have the legal papers for being roadworthy so it would be more sensible i think
Check out autoscout24.com and look for 'Lotus' under 'comprar' i.e. to buy.
You'll see why the hassle may be worth it. A basic R1 15k euros, an ordinary spec' Dax is advertised at 30k euros. Foolish prices. MK are
assembled under licence as the Garbi. Here. (prices from 24,000 euros).
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veld
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| posted on 17/1/12 at 07:04 PM |
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In France to restrictive the power of Hayabusa there is this in the admission, so i will try to see if the noise decrease....
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iiyama
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| posted on 4/3/12 at 08:52 AM |
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To update my earier post, I checked the car with the same noise meter in the same location as before the air box was fitted. Unbelievably Ive lost
around 8db! All I need to do now is get it back on the rollers a nd see if Ive lost any power!!
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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jeffw
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| posted on 4/3/12 at 10:13 AM |
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That doesn't surprise me....intake noise is a big issue with ITBs.
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iiyama
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| posted on 4/3/12 at 06:14 PM |
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It didn't surprise me that I lost noise, just how much I lost!
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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