CraigJ
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 04:56 PM |
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Originally posted by jossey
Given there was a bad fire... Is there a chance that he may have been the driver n they just said he wasn't cos he is a famous person?
The road was a 50kmh road by what I read... Looks bad for 30 mph mmmmmmmmm
There is a photo of him getting the passenger side as they set off.
http://www.thewrap.com/paul-walker-dead-car-crash-report-fast-and-furious
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coozer
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 05:06 PM |
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Craig, theres no need for language like that, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I only posted in here because I've been inundated with FB messages about it but as theres thousands of sad deaths everyday it takes something
really special to move me...
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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CraigJ
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 05:20 PM |
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Originally posted by coozer
Craig, theres no need for language like that, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I only posted in here because I've been inundated with FB messages about it but as theres thousands of sad deaths everyday it takes something
really special to move me...
Yes they are but to say he is guilty because he was a passenger is just utterly stupid.
I bet if someone close to BritishTrident was a passenger in a fatal crash his opinion would soon change.
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Minicooper
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 05:21 PM |
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Originally posted by coozer
Craig, theres no need for language like that, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I only posted in here because I've been inundated with FB messages about it but as theres thousands of sad deaths everyday it takes something
really special to move me...
People are entitled to their opinion but when they are wrong and offensive about it then it's my opinion that Craig was spot on
David
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twybrow
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 05:29 PM |
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Originally posted by Not Anumber
+ 1 Owelly, i couldn't put it better than that. Sympathy all round.
+1. It is a shame either way, and irrespective of how it happened, it is sad. And of course the Glasgow helicopter incident is also very very sad and
my thoughts go out to the loved ones in both cases.
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Simon
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 07:39 PM |
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Got to admit I've never heard of him either. Condolences to family and friends but that damage hasn't happened at much less than 3 fig
speeds (in a 30 ish limit), so as said, let's be very, very grateful they didn't kill anyone else as that really would have been
tragic.
And yes, condolences to all involved at Clutha. Very very sad indeed.
ATB
Simon
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perksy
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 08:48 PM |
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Sad news for lots of people and we should spare a thought for his young daughter 
Believe he also did a lot for charity, so RIP
Lets not jump to any conclusions just yet folks, Although I've read that the police are saying there was evidence of speed being an issue...
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jeffw
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 09:34 PM |
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RIP Roger Rodas....the driver who isn't famous enough for anyone to know his name
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/who-roger-rodas-driver-paul-2873910
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kj
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| posted on 1/12/13 at 09:49 PM |
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Sad that people bickering over over the death of a person who the family love may they just rest in peace. To be a passenger in life or to drive your
own destiny
[Edited on 1/12/13 by kj]
Think about it, think about it again and then do it.
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craig1410
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 12:51 AM |
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Originally posted by jeffw
RIP Roger Rodas....the driver who isn't famous enough for anyone to know his name
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/who-roger-rodas-driver-paul-2873910
Seems like Roger Rodas was a petrol-head like most people on this site. Maybe he made a mistake on this occasion (not proven yet btw) but I'm
sure many of us here are honest enough to admit that this could have happened to us. I know that I have made mistakes or been caught in circumstances
through no fault of my own which could have ended very badly. I'm grateful for the opportunity to reflect on those mistakes and learn from
them.
Thanks for posting that link jeffw, it's good to hear a bit about 'the driver'. Both he and Paul will be missed I'm sure.
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yellowcab
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 07:14 AM |
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Just read on the TMZ offspring site that Roger is being considered a murderer
Bit harsh given the circumstances, I presume then they'd say the same about the late Colin McRae (RIP) then? Ridiculous.
All a bit pathetic in my opinion, we've all done silly things, driven too fast, text whilst driving, towing when we shouldn't,
speeding.
For crying out loud, we have two dead people here due to what we do on a daily basis, enjoy our cars.
I have a lot more sadness in my heart due to this, than I do with any coke-snorting celebrities on self destruct. (Amy Winehouse, Whitney Houston)
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britishtrident
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 09:06 AM |
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Originally posted by yellowcab
Just read on the TMZ offspring site that Roger is being considered a murderer
Bit harsh given the circumstances, I presume then they'd say the same about the late Colin McRae (RIP) then? Ridiculous.
All a bit pathetic in my opinion, we've all done silly things, driven too fast, text whilst driving, towing when we shouldn't,
speeding.
For crying out loud, we have two dead people here due to what we do on a daily basis, enjoy our cars.
I have a lot more sadness in my heart due to this, than I do with any coke-snorting celebrities on self destruct. (Amy Winehouse, Whitney Houston)
You clearly don't know enough about the McRae helicopter crash and the aftermath of suffering it caused.
Colin Mc Rae killed 2 children because he was showing off flying much to low taking chances flying an aircraft that had no C of A
which tells us it wasn't properly maintained and wasn't insured, he did not hold a valid type rating for the model of helicopter, a
current flying license or medical certificate.
"Sheriff Nikola Stewart, who heard the inquiry over 16 days at Lanark Sheriff Court, concluded that the deaths could have been avoided if Mr
McRae had not engaged in low-level flying "when it was unnecessary and unsafe to do so".
"The deaths and the accident resulting in the deaths might have been avoided had Mr McRae not flown his helicopter into the Mouse
Valley."
"Mr McRae chose to fly the helicopter into the valley. For a private pilot such as Mr McRae, lacking the necessary training, experience or
requirement to do so, embarking upon such demanding, low-level flying in such difficult terrain, was imprudent, unreasonable and contrary to the
principles of good airmanship."
"The episodes of extremely low-level flying and the excessive manoeuvre parameters, particularly the descent into the valley by Larkhall, all as
captured on the video recording, are indicative of an aircraft being flown imprudently, without due regard to the principles of good airmanship and in
such a way that normal safety margins would be reduced."
Because of the lack of insurance Colin McRae caused financial misery for those left behind.
[Edited on 2/12/13 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
[/I]
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yellowcab
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 09:23 AM |
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Touché sir, touché... now where's my corner to sit in.
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dhutch
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 09:50 AM |
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I don’t think, from the reports and photos I have seen, and what I know of American roads, I can pass comment on how appropriate or otherwise the
speed there were doing was, or in fact other than a bit of a guess, how fast that even was.
However clearly its great shame that’s it’s happened, for the families left behind, the fans, and population as a whole. The films are not car
building documentaries, or exceptional works of literature, but they’re entertaining and sold well, can’t fault that.
RIP indeed I say.
Daniel
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Fieldy
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 02:20 PM |
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Originally posted by beaver34
Rip, influenced a lot of young people to get into the car game
Also I find it strange that the people who like him love speed and thrills be the first to act all mr perfect when it comes to an accident, we will
have all had close calls its fair to say you win some you loose some
The driver and Paul lost this one
Completely agree with the above.
I can’t actually believe some of the other comments on this thread. This thread is about Paul Walker, a well known petrol head, family man and active
charity supporter who happened to be a famous actor… start another thread if you wish to talk about the other accidents, dont compare them. The
"rich" comment is also a complete load of rubbish - idiot
His death is no more or no less important than any of the other people that have died recently, each event resulted in loss of life and each deserves
respect in its own right.
Sympathy for all involved
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Slimy38
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 02:50 PM |
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Originally posted by yellowcab
Just read on the TMZ offspring site that Roger is being considered a murderer
It wouldn't be the first time when a dead driver has been considered a murderer. I remember a case of some youths out in a hot hatch that ended
badly, the girlfriend died in the passenger seat and her family had no issues blaming the driver for her murder.
Although I think in both cases I believe manslaughter would be more accurate?
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Charlie_Zetec
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 03:00 PM |
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In the UK, murder is classed as pre-meditated (ie. you go out with the intention of killing another), whereas manslaughter is unplanned, but the end
result is a death. In the US, i belive they have murder in varying "degrees", which I have never investigated.
My partner lost her cousin in an RTA early hours of Saturday morning, and I can see how devastating it can be for any family.
At the end of the day, I think it's only fair to send condolences to the families and friends of those involved, and not speak ill of the dead -
whether "at fault" or not.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity!
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b14wrc
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| posted on 2/12/13 at 10:52 PM |
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I was totally gutted waking up to hearing about this on Sunday morning. I have loved watching these films and am totally saddened by the fact we have
lost such a nice guy who shared so much in common with all of us on this forum, the fact we all love fast cars. Paul really was a true petrol head.
I'd just like to say my thoughts are with his friends and family who must all miss him very greatly.
Some of the comments on this tread are just insensitive.....
Rob
20vt powered rear engined locost
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