stevebubs
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 11:00 AM |
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sounds good
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qwerty_100
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 11:59 AM |
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I too would like to JPSC section currently rebuilding a phoenix
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FuryRebuild
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 12:00 PM |
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shouting up
When all you have is a hammer, everything around you is a nail.
www.furyrebuild.co.uk
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stevebubs
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 12:12 PM |
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Hmmm...
 
Lots of Sylvas
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the constant builder
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 12:30 PM |
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Yes please, count me in.
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adithorp
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 12:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Hmmm...
Lots of Sylvas
I thought that was quite ironic too. Just disapointed mycar is just out of shot in every picture 
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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adithorp
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 02:18 PM |
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So, if Chris agrees to a new section, what are peoples thought on a title for it?
In the debate that followed the MX5 section, it got whittled down to...
"Jeremy Phillips designed cars"
...and the strap-line below...
"Cars from the JP stable, including the Striker, Fury, Phoenix, Riot, J15 and many more."
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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monkeyarms
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 02:35 PM |
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Good idea 
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HowardB
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 02:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Hmmm...
Lots of Sylvas
I thought that was quite ironic too. Just disapointed mycar is just out of shot in every picture
Adi,
I took a good few pictures of small features on your car, wheel arches, etc, forgot to take an overall shot,. perhaps some else did?
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)
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striker16v
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 04:44 PM |
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Yes please..
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me!
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 04:59 PM |
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+1 from me!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 05:00 PM |
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"Cars from the JP (Sylva) stable, including the Stylus, Striker, Fury, Phoenix, Riot, J15, Leader and Star"
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bigfoot4616
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 05:53 PM |
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yep, good idea
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inkafone
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 06:45 PM |
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Good idea - think it should just be called SYLVA's. From memory names used are - Star Leader Striker Fury Stylus Menace Mojo Riot J15 &
Vectis. Then there's derivatives like the Leader SS, Fury Spyder, Mojo SE etc
[Edited on 8/5/14 by inkafone]
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Sam_68
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 07:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
"Cars from the JP (Sylva) stable, including the Stylus, Striker, Fury, Phoenix, Riot, J15, Leader and Star"
Yes, I think that Sylva should definitely get a mention in the headline.
I'm not sure how 'famous' Jeremy is outside of owners and hardcore enthusiasts - there may be people who have heard of Sylva but who
wouldn't connect the name 'Jeremy Philips'. Certainly, if you do a search for 'Sylva', Sylva Autokits is the second to
top result, whereas there appear to be quite a lot of JP's in the world!
Maybe even just:
Jeremy Philip's Sylva stable
I'm not sure you'd fit the full list of JP's designs into the strapline. Assuming not, and in the interests of anti-discrimination,
how about limiting it to just currently available (and perhaps more recent models) so that we'd at least stand a chance of picking up Google
searches by most of those coming to the cars afresh? With due respect to Star owners, there can't be that many active examples still
around these days?
Bit of a bugger that he's been so prolific over the years, innit?
Star
Leader
Striker
Phoenix
Fury
Stylus
Jester
Mojo
Riot
Fulcrum
J15
Vectis
Have I missed any?!
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dickie b
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 07:27 PM |
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Just to be awkward.. I have a Fury with a curvy Phoenix rear end.
Sylva Furynix.
Great idea though - count me in!
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SPYDER
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 08:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam_68
Have I missed any?!
What about the first CYANA CARS variant? Wasn't it just a Phoenix-esque bodied Striker Mk4?
[Edited on 8/5/14 by SPYDER]
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dickie b
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 08:25 PM |
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I would say yes - Cyanas have a natural home among Sylvas as the JP DNA is defo there to a certain degree.
Same for Meggt (mojo) and Riot Cars etc... The long extinct Swindon Sports Cars made the Leader for a while too..?
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dickie b
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 08:28 PM |
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I think early Cyanas were mx5 based on an all new chassis . A mix of Sylva clubman /mk4/ phoenix body panels though.
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adithorp
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 08:36 PM |
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But should the section title credit Sylva as a company that only currently markets (if JP "markets" anything) 2 of his designs and not
credit any of the companies selling his earlier designs.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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SPYDER
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 08:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dickie b
I think early Cyanas were mx5 based on an all new chassis . A mix of Sylva clubman /mk4/ phoenix body panels though.
The first CYANA was built on the square tube STRIKER Mk4 chassis. The jigs and rights were acquired from Stuart Taylor Motorsport IIRC.
The subsequent round tube STM Phoenix chassis (like my car) had little or no JP input AFAIK. Full of JP DNA though, as you rightly say.
[Edited on 8/5/14 by SPYDER]
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stevebubs
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 09:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
But should the section title credit Sylva as a company that only currently markets (if JP "markets" anything) 2 of his designs and not
credit any of the companies selling his earlier designs.
A lot of people still associate things like the Fury, Jester, Mojo, Striker, Pheonix etc with Sylva...agreed you don't want to alienate the new
owners who have developed the cars first, but they all have the same root..
Would be good to have a sticky at the top of the forum with a list of the cars and their current stable...
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Sam_68
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 09:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
But should the section title credit Sylva as a company that only currently markets (if JP "markets" anything) 2 of his designs and not
credit any of the companies selling his earlier designs.
It's arguable, I know.
But would most people recognise Caterham, Xanthos, Evante and (stretching the point a little) the VX220 and Tesla as 'cars from the Colin
Chapman stable', or 'cars from the Lotus stable', do you think?
JP and Sylva Autokits Ltd. are effectively one and the same, and all models originated as Sylva products. So whether you call the section
'Jeremy Philip's stable' or 'Sylva stable' (or both: I still reckon that 'Jeremy Philip's Sylva
Stable' is snappy enough - alliterative, even - and covers both bases), it amounts to the same thing.
...just that many people will recognise the name of the Sylva marque from magazine articles and race results who may not necessarily recognise
JP's name or link him to a particular model?
In which case 'Jeremy Philip's Sylva Stable' will educate them. 
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Sam_68
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 10:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Would be good to have a sticky at the top of the forum with a list of the cars and their current stable...
Yes, good idea... it's hard to keep track, sometimes, and contact details for those models still available would be useful to some people.
We could add photos as a 'spotters guide'... who's going to volunteer as Chief Anorak to do the definitive guide to the various
Marks of Striker/Phoenix/Clubmans?
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adithorp
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| posted on 8/5/14 at 10:41 PM |
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It's been pointed out to me than JP himself isn't all that happy about the JPSC club having his name in it's title. He's too
modest by far.
"Sylva derived" is starting to look like a Leader 
[Edited on 8/5/14 by adithorp]
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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