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me

posted on 10/3/04 at 01:49 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by timf
quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
Woodster was sold the orange car as a "turnkey" by Sports Power Drive.

The fact that SPD bought the blue car and used NO parts from it to build the new car means that it's not re-chassisied.

It's a Ringer, bought for it's identity.

Woodsters car has never been SVA'd or legally registered. He has been driving the car illegally without knowing it. If he'd had an accident his insurance would have been invalid.
Alledgedly

[Edited on 14/12/03 by chrisg]


surely the v5 listed a previous owner
therfore should not be listed as a turnkey car in its self





what i want to know is- does anyone know 100% if SPD bought the blue car and built the orange one with the intentions of just using its identitiy and nothing more. Not sure if ive missed something but all i can see is everyone is very quick to make assumptions without there being any real proof.

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JoelP

posted on 10/3/04 at 09:29 AM Reply With Quote
though im all for political correctness (im not really, but that wouldnt be PC....) it is irrelevant what he intended. the alleged fact is that one was bought as a write off, and the other allegedly sold not just as that car but as made by the original manufacturer.

anyway, the guy's a tosser....

allegedly






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theconrodkid

posted on 10/3/04 at 10:01 AM Reply With Quote






who cares who wins
pass the pork pies

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woodster

posted on 10/3/04 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
[Edited on 8/9/05 by woodster]
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ned

posted on 10/3/04 at 10:17 AM Reply With Quote
woodster,

didn't the v5 you got through the post show the number of previous owners? surely that could have been suspicious for a 'new' or ex demo car?

Ned.





beware, I've got yellow skin

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woodster

posted on 10/3/04 at 10:31 AM Reply With Quote
It was only when things went wrong with the car Ned i sat down and read it ......... 2 previous owners .... then i read the MOT no vin number on it
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me

posted on 10/3/04 at 11:12 AM Reply With Quote
What i am trying to get across is, is there any proof he never used any parts from the blue car, is there any other defects with the build quality or did he just make a badly designed prop for the bike engine which caused the damage.
On a completely different matter does anyone know anything about this rs200 he's been building is that allegedly badly built as well.

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Staple balls

posted on 10/3/04 at 11:22 AM Reply With Quote
the RS200 with *no* triangulation in the cockpit, making it and the people inside the only crumple zone in an accident?






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me

posted on 10/3/04 at 11:43 AM Reply With Quote
that will be the one. Has anyone seen it in the flesh? if so whats it like?
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JoelP

posted on 10/3/04 at 12:03 PM Reply With Quote
on ebay recently:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2459230377&category=29750








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woodster

posted on 10/3/04 at 12:07 PM Reply With Quote
[Edited on 8/9/05 by woodster]
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ned

posted on 10/3/04 at 12:18 PM Reply With Quote
that chassis is absolutely terrible, there can be little rigidity or strength in the event of an accident, what about side impact! there's less in the way than on a locost (the doors are only fibreglass on the spd200 aren't they?

Ned.





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me

posted on 10/3/04 at 12:27 PM Reply With Quote
if the whole shell is fibreglass i would assume the doors are to. they look alot shorter than standard sierra doors and i cant see them cutting and welding to shorten them.
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stephen_gusterson

posted on 10/3/04 at 01:53 PM Reply With Quote
what was used is irrelevent.

unless the car has the same chassis (which is what the reg no relates to) then it would be a ringer.

not allegedly but true.


I think whats being inferred is that the reg has now appeared on a MK chassis...... which wouldnt be right.

atb

steve



quote:
Originally posted by me
What i am trying to get across is, is there any proof he never used any parts from the blue car, is there any other defects with the build quality or did he just make a badly designed prop for the bike engine which caused the damage.
On a completely different matter does anyone know anything about this rs200 he's been building is that allegedly badly built as well.







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mad4x4

posted on 12/5/04 at 12:47 PM Reply With Quote
Wooster if you have doubts, or unhappy. I would get the car identiy checked by the DVLA and then legally challange "SPD" or who ever you bought it from. If it was sold as Ex demo then it should be ex demo.

Don't Turnkey Suppliers have tighter regs to comply to than a home builder?

I'm sure Office of fair trading might be interested in this............





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woodster

posted on 12/5/04 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote
[Edited on 8/9/05 by woodster]
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woodster

posted on 13/5/04 at 09:10 AM Reply With Quote
cheers syd ....
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SparkyPups

posted on 13/5/04 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
Syd

personal liability for directors and officers of a company are still in existance.

Indeed any company should have insurance for any such claim.

[Edited on 13/5/04 by SparkyPups]

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woodster

posted on 13/5/04 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
sportspowerdrive aren't a limited company ...... just a sole trader !!!
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britishtrident

posted on 14/5/04 at 07:07 AM Reply With Quote
Nothing to do with any of the above sad and lurid tale but food for thought for home built chassis fabricators --- I seem to remember someone telling me that under current regulations the original manufacturer can replace the body and or chassis with one of the same reusing the samw vib/chassis number without requiring re-inspection. I think the loop hole was intended for major manufacturers prototypes.

[Edited on 14/5/04 by britishtrident]

[Edited on 14/5/04 by britishtrident]

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bob

posted on 14/5/04 at 08:23 AM Reply With Quote
Yep trident is right,i have a friend who rebuilds old land rovers and on some the complete chassis is renewed along with most of the bolt on body parts.

I've never known them to have any problems with V5's,but then again i doubt if they have ever told swansea

As said though i think this is only done where possible in mass manufactured vehicles.






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Mark Allanson

posted on 14/5/04 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
We regularly reshell damaged cars, no inspection, very little paperwork, not even a destruction certificate for the old shell - we sell them to the local rally fraternity. I personally stamp the VIN on chassis, and sign to say that I have done it.





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Peteff

posted on 14/5/04 at 08:08 PM Reply With Quote
I've reroaded a couple myself with secondhand shells, no problem. Police inspected the last one under the new system. They came to the house and asked me if I knew it had been written off and I told them I had bought the write off. They looked at the numbers and went away happy.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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woodster

posted on 1/6/04 at 02:24 PM Reply With Quote
[Edited on 8/9/05 by woodster]
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steve faunch

posted on 1/6/04 at 08:53 PM Reply With Quote
a little behind the times but looking at the pictures of the orange car, and seeing the blue car before, during and after crash they dont even have the same make of engine in
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