orton1966
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 06:52 AM |
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ZX12r sump options, help needed!
Which Sump for my zx12r
It seems most of the billet sump options for the 12r feature a swinging pickup and are therefore quite expensive. These three companies all offer 12r
sump kits with very similar descriptions but a fairly big variation in price
Big CC, Holeshot Racing, AB performance
Are the sumps effectively the same or does anyone know what the differences are. Anyone fitted one?
I suppose the dilemma is –
Do I pay less and get someone to mod my existing sump and pickup (not really happy doing it myself)?
Pay the + or - £600 for one of these billet sumps?
Dig even deeper and go the full dry sump route?
Just as an absolute curve ball, apparently a development of the 12r engine is used in one of kwak’s jet-ski’s and it feature what they term a
semi-drysump. Anyone ever heard of this before and know if any of the parts are compatible?
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eznfrank
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 07:08 AM |
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When I was looking for different sumps for my zx12, most of the people I spoke to recommended a simple bafle option and reckoned the ZX12 copes fairly
well with this. I got Martin Keenan to do mine for about £45. The pick up is just a case of taking off the appropriate length so that it sits on the
base of the pan and then cutting a few notches in it.
I've got a spare sump for an '01 if that's any use?
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Andy B
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 09:06 AM |
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I think the first question when considering sump systems is the application of the finished car. Oil surge is a subjective issue based ona number of
issues.
Will the car do a lot of track work, just how hard will it be pushed, will it ever have slicks fitted etc.
The best example I can give is we arranged for two of the fastest rgb drivers to test a pair of spire GTRs at Cadwell. These two cars had been running
perfectly well for over a year on a cut down baffled sump. In the space of a morning the RGB racers managed to rod both motors setting light to one in
the process - they quite simply outdrove the capabilities of the sump.
The reason we use the 360 degree swinging pick up is based on cost ie cheaper than dry sump and also I have always disliked the complexity and shear
number of unions and parts to go wrong on the dry sump set ups. Keeping things simple usually pays off.
We do have a ZX12 sump on the shelf that a customer bought fitted and then upgraded to Busa before even firing the 12 up. We could do a discount on
this unit as technically it isnt brand new.
If its any good to you give me a call on 01449 736633
regards
Andy
[Edited on 8/3/09 by Andy B]
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orton1966
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 10:27 AM |
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u2u sent
Very interested
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INDY BIRD
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 09:19 PM |
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Hi Andy
as you have tested the zx12 to the death now, how are the zx12r engines holding up with this billet sump, ie if you where to do the same test again
will the results end in the same way but hold out longer or are they that effective???
interested as i have a zx10r engine and understand you may also be doing them for this engine??
let us know as i do run slicks on track days so looking for some more security
thanks in advance
sean
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eddbaz
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| posted on 9/3/09 at 04:21 PM |
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I've got one of ab performances billet swing pickup sumps on my zx12r, really well made bit of kit, plus Andy was very helpfull,great bloke to
deal with.
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