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jambo

posted on 27/3/09 at 11:26 PM Reply With Quote
are gear indicators a must have?

i had my first drive in my bec today with paddle shift,i found changing gear very difficult and had no idea if it changed up or not so as to what gear i was in i had no clue.
so are the lcd gear indicators very good or will i get use to it and get to know my car.

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YQUSTA

posted on 27/3/09 at 11:35 PM Reply With Quote
For me I like having it.

What I found is at low speeds I could be in 6th and not even know it when pulling away at 30mph but the main reason for me was track days and entry to corners.

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Steve Hignett

posted on 28/3/09 at 12:55 AM Reply With Quote
Depends how you are driving!

If you are bimbling round then you may be wondering what gear you are in because the amount of torque you have will always be enough for most situations (contrary to popular belief), however if you are nailing it everywhere, you will get used to the pitch and feel of the engine and speed very quickly so they are more luxury than necessity, although I don't deny they are very useful to the people that use them to their own advantage.

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smart51

posted on 28/3/09 at 07:37 AM Reply With Quote
I've managed for 3 years now without. Generally I just work on the Up One Down One principle of I need another gear.

It is handy that my top gear is 10.2 MPH per 1000 RPM so if I'm doing 70 and my tacho says less than 7000, I know I'm in 6th.

I find only 2 problems. At 11,000 RPM at 112 MPH, I always try going for 7th. It's not often I'm on the track though. At 30ish MPH I sometimes try to go from 2nd to 1st which is a difficult change unless you match the revs just right. It is easy to get stuck in neutral.

Personally, I wouldn't bother.

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bimbleuk

posted on 28/3/09 at 07:48 AM Reply With Quote
Nice to have if you're new to BECs and sequential changes. However you will eventually learn to remember from feel and engine noise, RPM and road speed. At the very least a neutral indicator would be handy.
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bigrich

posted on 28/3/09 at 08:23 AM Reply With Quote
I have one on mine, Its a GI Pro. The indicator is really good, but was bought more for the timing retard eliminator it has.(extra power in the lower gears)

As said their not really required, BUT they have a purpose and look good. Plus if it helps you as you get used to BEC gears etc then probably worth getting







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adithorp

posted on 28/3/09 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
It takes a while to get used to.

I generally know where I am now but I have a couple of cribs to help me out. As I come up to a junction I keep an eye on the neutral light. It flashes as I go through neutral into first so I avoid trying to go down another one. In fifth my revs match speed (50mph=5000rpm) so I know where 5th is and if revs are lower than speed then I'm in top and don't try for 7th.

At the end of the day it's just a case of counting to six and back! ;-)

What did you mean by "had no idea if it changed"? My change is pretty positive. Have you got any flex in the mechanism/levers?

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ReMan

posted on 28/3/09 at 08:58 AM Reply With Quote
Sound like you need to address the difficulty in changing gear firs, then get used to it, then decide if you reall need to spend on an indicator
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sorens2

posted on 28/3/09 at 09:38 AM Reply With Quote
I just ordered a GIpro for my MNR.
Can´t seem to work out what gear I´m in.
If I come to a full stop I´m not sure I´m in first and if I´m i 6th I always go for 7th.
And the retard thing is welcomed.



Soren S2

[Edited on 28/3/09 by sorens2]

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Dangle_kt

posted on 28/3/09 at 11:35 AM Reply With Quote
if its for pulling off in 1st, then just do what your taught on a bike. bang down the box as your slowing not once your stopped - sometimes the gears wont engage and you get stuck in 2nd or worst, neutral. you have to let the clutch out, even partially for the gears to engage sometimes.

its somthing thats obvious on a bike, but might be harder in a car.

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Hellfire

posted on 28/3/09 at 11:37 AM Reply With Quote
The gear indicator is not essential at all for general road use as it's not necessary to know really. On the track however I would say it's very important as it's noce to know what gear you're in when quickly negotiating cornering and power levels etc.

The GIPro doesn't have a retard/backoff over-ride facility on the ZX12R engine.

Steve






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BenB

posted on 28/3/09 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
I don't bother with one (then again I've only got 5 gears to keep track of). I just use a combination of keeping count in my brain, RPM and MPH. It's not something I have to conciously do, I just "know" what gear I'm in.

After all, when driving a H type shift you don't forget which gear you're in do you?!?!?

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Jon Ison

posted on 28/3/09 at 01:39 PM Reply With Quote
Off all the instruments on track I would consider your ears and backside as the most use for speed.

As for actual instruments then rev counter for me is more use then a gear indicator, use the gears to keep it in the power band, doesn't matter what gear its in its power you need ?

A shift light can be useful on BECs as they rev up so fast, gear indicator ? imho all it will do is confirm what your backside should be telling you, your in the wrong gear ?

Neutral light, possibly a must have.






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sorens2

posted on 28/3/09 at 11:38 PM Reply With Quote
Just mounted my GIpro tonight.
Haven´t tried it yet on the road, but in the garage it works fine.
Dims the display when its dark in a sophisticated way.
The manual was brilliant.

Soren S2

[Edited on 28/3/09 by sorens2]

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