maximill666
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 02:07 PM |
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Buying an engine with no numbers
Just looking for a bit of advice regarding buying an engine with its numbers removed.
What kind of issues could I encounter if I bought a bike engine which came from a cat B accident damaged bike which now has its numbers removed, there
is no documents or history to prove where it came from & the seller can only provide a receipt from himself (private sale not a breakers).
I would be planning to fit it to a kitcar thats already been sva'd if that makes a difference.
Thanks in advance
[Edited on 7/6/09 by maximill666]
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 02:17 PM |
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You could rebuild the engine and put your own number on it??
I would suspect that its stolen at some point, which is the only reason you would remove the number, to avoid detection.
It is possible to have this read though, by x-ray, but only in extreme circumstances. Its possible that it could have a datatag system somewhere on
it, and if scanned could cause you a headache as well.
Personally, i wouldnt buy it unless for a track day car where i would re-stamp the engine with a new number.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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Peteff
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 03:17 PM |
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If you are confident that it is not stolen or has been stolen recovered and paid out legitimately you can apply for a new number and stamp it legally.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 03:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
If you are confident that it is not stolen or has been stolen recovered and paid out legitimately you can apply for a new number and stamp it legally.
I didnt know you could do that, but it would be very difficult to prove that its not stolen without a number?
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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eccsmk
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 03:24 PM |
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if you trust the seller then buy buy buy
when i bought my origional engine for the indy i had to stand and watch while the numbers were removed from it 
(its the insurance company who decide if the numbers need to be removed!!)
and then realised i needed the numbers bought another one 
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flak monkey
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 03:36 PM |
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As long as you are sure its not been nicked then just stamp a new number on it and away you go....
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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coozer
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 03:53 PM |
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Coppers round here check the numbers very close.. if there's any tampering or what not they confiscate the bike and acid check the block... and
you only get the bike back if they are 100% satisfied its legit.
Personally I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole....
Its happened to Guinness in his bec so beware
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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maximill666
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 04:08 PM |
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Thanks for the advice gents, I think I will give it a miss, especially as the seller cant prove where it came from or how he came by it.
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yorkshire-engines
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 04:14 PM |
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There is only one reason why its got no numbers on its stolen
i have had over 2000 engines from ins co,s and never had one without a number on
i have had some with removed numbers but these usually come from a reliable source with police or ins co receipt
usually i break the engines for parts
but beware i have seen the police confiscate complete bikes from superbike teams who had a receipt as well
cheer s mal
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Canada EH!
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| posted on 7/6/09 at 06:37 PM |
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As a retired Police Officer, our auto recovery people would re-stamp serial numbers on recovered vehicles with numbers supplied by the Ministry, not
the original numbers.
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