tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:22 PM |
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New User Looking to buy & Build MK Indy R Kit
Hello
Me (Danny) & my Dad ( Trevor) are looking to buy and build a MK Indy R with R1 engine.
Has anyone got any feedback regarding MK getting through IVA and the big question, bike or car engine!
Also we have been made aware that the MK dosent come with a mamual and the best way to get a comprehesive guide to building one is this website.
Is MK The way forward??
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StevieB
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:33 PM |
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Welcome to the madhouse!
I've just finished building an R1 Indy (non R version).
What I would say is look at the other options before you make up your mind - everyone has their own favourite but have a look at the UK manufacturers
listing on totalkitcar.com for a fairly thorough list of the kit manufacturers ou there.
As far as engine choice goes, this is another ongoing debate as to which is best - I was once told that a bec is just a car for a hooligan around a
track. That's why I have an R1 engine... 
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:38 PM |
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hi, well i brought a mk indy delux kit, from mk. as you said the mk manual is not good, but if you come on here and ask the question you need on
here.
engine choice is depends on what you want the car to do or age. well as i am 17 i went for a 1.6 pinto running on bike carbs.
stuart
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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macspeedy
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:42 PM |
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if you havent been out in a bec engined car then try one.. and save yourself changing your mind once youve fitted a car engine... wish i had...
Mac
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tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:48 PM |
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Bloody hell that really looks like my cat!!
thanks for the web address, i will check that out.
Mk def looks great and has much better lines than the rest. we were going to get a RH but the quality looked rubbish and the owners didnt have alot
good to say about them.
How long did it take to build 
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:51 PM |
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Yep big thumbs up for mk mine is a 1640 pinto on zx6r bikecarbs
Dont get a rhood they are as crap as they look and cost more in the long run worth less in the end
https://www.facebook.com/groups/462610273778799/
Puddle Dodgers Club
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tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:52 PM |
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loving the lpower sliding kid.
what does the car engine go like? i bet it still goes like stink
I am no Hamilton and a bec is fast, maybe too fast, dont want to be biting lampost.
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scotlad
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 06:53 PM |
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Hi tdb and welcome to the forum. Where abouts are you? Put your home town in your profile and you'll probably get offers for shots in bec and
cec to help make up your mind. I second Mr Macspeedy ^ a shot in a bec will blow you away- enough that i built an MK Indy Blade after a test shot of
MK's demo car!
Wonderous is our great blue ship that sails around the mighty sun, and joy to everyone that rides along!
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tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:03 PM |
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Thank for the hint - home page updated.
If anyone wants to help us make up our mind by taking us out for a shot then dont be shy
we are looking to go to MK to be shown around and hopefully get a deal!!
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StevieB
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:10 PM |
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My Indy's taken 3 years to build, though my wife insisted on having a baby soon afetr I started, which is the main reason for the delay as the
little tykes sap all of your time and money.
The main problem people seem to experience with the mk is that the bodywork can be a bit of a pig to get right - for me the grp quality wasn't
up to scratch and the joint between the rear panel and sides is very poor. However, I believe they're looking at sorting it out.
With regard to engine choic, bear in mind that IVA will require you to have a reverse gear. The Indy will pass setaing/interior wise as when I went
to my SVA they'd just receivd the IVA kit and the guy was keen to see it in practice, so I assembled it for him and he used it on my car -
passed new regs no problems.
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omega0684
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:13 PM |
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imho, BEC are great for a bit of track day fun but unpractical for road use. they are very loud and end up screaming at you all the time, ears ringing
like nobody's business, don't get me wrong they are very fast, but can be uncomfortably quick if you get what i mean,the other thing i
don't like about BEC's is the clunking when gear changing!
i prefer the CEC as you car enjoy the sound of the engine more. the ride is more comfortable and they are much more drivable out on the open road.
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:16 PM |
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hi, it took me to build mine in about a year.
here is a picture of mine, to help your choice of coulour:
 
bubble screen fitted
stuart
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:21 PM |
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we are torn on this and its a big deal
its alot of money, get a bec and you could end up with hearing problems and whiplash but get a cec and wish you had more power,
in terms of usage I guess we will be 60/40 track to road.
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tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:23 PM |
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hi stuart
that looks the bollocks!!
whats the performance like with th 1.6 pinto and whats this about bike carbs?
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twybrow
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
imho, BEC are great for a bit of track day fun but unpractical for road use. they are very loud and end up screaming at you all the time, ears ringing
like nobody's business, don't get me wrong they are very fast, but can be uncomfortably quick if you get what i mean,the other thing i
don't like about BEC's is the clunking when gear changing!
i prefer the CEC as you car enjoy the sound of the engine more. the ride is more comfortable and they are much more drivable out on the open road.
Alex, go and stand in the corner, and think about what you just said. You can come and play again when you come to your senses!
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tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:32 PM |
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stevieb
whats the noise level like with th R1 can you get past the screaming ?
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s2gse
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 07:41 PM |
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i have a mk indy with gsxr1000 ( could not wait so i purchased a used one direct from mk and so glad i did )
yes its loud
yes its a nightmare in traffic on the clutch
yes my back kills for two days after
but when ever i drive it i have a smile from ear to ear
the most fun on four wheels
life's to short and so was the drive
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macspeedy
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 08:02 PM |
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cec have but the power when you need it and i had great fun on track with my pinto powered one, which is a good starting point, but i always liked the
simple light all ready to go f'in mental bike powered units..
if its 60 track then i would have already made my mind up and even think about a rose jointed chassis...
check out my vids on this link
linky
[Edited on 15/6/09 by macspeedy]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 08:12 PM |
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Have a read of our build and rebuild diaries. Should give you some idea of whats involved in building an Indy. Although it's not the Indy R, the
method is the same.
BTW, definitely go BEC. 
Phil
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StevieB
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 08:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tdbracing
stevieb
whats the noise level like with th R1 can you get past the screaming ?
No worse than an R1 bike with a sports can - wearing a helmet most of the time, so just a set of ear plugs required, exactly the same as bikers
use.
I will say that it takes some getting used the the high revs, but in a good way - R1 makes peak power at 10,000 and goes on to about 11,500.
as said though, it depends where you want to use it most and for what purpose - I have an elise that ticks all the required boxes for rapid road
driving.
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tdbracing
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 09:07 PM |
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thanks macspeedy/hellfire
smart vids on both!!
Im being drawn to the power of the darkside
bec looks as fast as light!!
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phoenix70
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 09:32 PM |
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There are a few option for car engines that will give you more than enough power to have some fun, you don't need to go bike engined. Just try
and fully cost you chosen engine, there can be a number of hidden cost involved with both choices.
As other have said, think what you going to use the car for before choosing your engine, for mainly track use, go BEC, for road use, stick to CEC.
Just to end with a controversial note, have a search on the forum for crashed cars and count how many BEC's have been crashed compared to
CEC's... they may be a lot of fun to drive, but when a BEC bites, its sore.
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 09:33 PM |
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I don't know why people say that you have to go BEC - That's just not the case, you can do one of three things:
1. Put a car engine in, then change it during the build and waste a load of money...
2. Put a car engine in and change it as soon as you are on the road, wasting a shed load of money...
3. Put a Bike engine in and enjoy the build, love the driving and pee on everything else on a trackday (inc supercars...)
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RK
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| posted on 15/6/09 at 10:00 PM |
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But what about reverse, needed for IVA? Is this an option that is easy to install? This may add quite a bit to cost.
Never driven either, so not stirring the pot!
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 16/6/09 at 09:43 AM |
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hi, i think the perfomance is good, it allectration is great. but if you go car, go for a 2.0 straight away, maybe vauxhaull red top, or zetec, that
way you have the same power, if not more than a bike engine, it it will not expolde your ear drums.lol
and you have revese.
stuart
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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