mef
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| posted on 20/1/11 at 12:45 PM |
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CBR1000RR06 build
Hi everyone,
My mate is starting a rebuild of his car and fitting a CBR100RR06 engine, can anyone give us some pointers, no point in re-inventing the wheel and
doing things his own way! Can you get standard conversion parts etc?
Any links to other threads?
Thanks,
Martin
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Benzo
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| posted on 20/1/11 at 01:06 PM |
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Into what kind of chassis?
I presume other than mounts you will need, prop adaptor, prop, correct diff and exhaust?
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A1
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| posted on 20/1/11 at 02:08 PM |
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cooling pipes...
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mef
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| posted on 20/1/11 at 03:20 PM |
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It's a live axle chassis, he removed a 1600cc Pinto. Obviously he will have to fabricate some mountings, does it get fixed in solid?
Does anyone make an exhaust manifold or is it best to use the bike one and modify it to suit?
Martin
[Edited on 20/1/11 by mef]
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bigrich
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| posted on 20/1/11 at 07:06 PM |
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cbr1000r is a very tall engine with the twin injector set up . be prepared to modify the inlet manifold and possibly modify the sump unless you want a
large bonnet scoop. Also check your rear axle has suitable gearing
Dont forget stuff like high pressure pump, twin fuel lines, power commander, suitable clocks, poss softer front springs, new 2 piece propshaft,
hydraulic clutch cylinde,. gearlinkages/paddle shift etc.
Engine could be solid mounted or bushed both options work. Exhaust could be made up from a couple of stock manifolds cut and rewelded if you have the
skills/ tig welder(not sure if they are titanium or not). may be easier to have a system made once the install is complete so it fits the car.
make sure you have either a USA loom and ECU or the correct keys for the UK HISS system.
Probably lots more to list. I'm sure there is a CEC to BEC sticky on the forum with lists of parts etc
Good luck with the swap
Rich
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/9/viewthread.php?tid=90943
Have a look at this thread
[Edited on 20/1/11 by bigrich]
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mef
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| posted on 21/1/11 at 11:49 AM |
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OK, thanks for the input, so far we have learned that the sump will require either replacing or chopping and welding to make more ground clearance,
the oil pick-up pipe will also need modifying to suit. we will need a clutch slave cylinder stand -off bracket and longer pushrod to clear the
propshaft flange. Also he needs the original airbox and upper injector set and we will have to blank off the water pump and replace it with an
external electric one with a controller. We are considering using a DTA S40 ecu so wont be using the original coils but will need a wasted spark coil
and some plug leads. We will need the engine wiring loom for some of the sensor and injector plugs which are not available new.
Obviously he will need to fabricate some brackets to mount the engine in the chassis and get a propshaft, 2 piece I believe? and the propshaft flange
for the engine (I have heard that these are available but not know where from).
Martin
[Edited on 21/1/11 by mef]
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mef
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| posted on 22/1/11 at 06:27 PM |
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modify sump?
What have others done about the sump?
I've heard that one solution is to buy a billet machined sump from A B Performance, very nice but at £500 it's too expensive for this
conversion! (more than the engine cost!)
Can we chop it down and tig weld it back together to make it shallower so it doesn't hang down so low and make a new pickup pipe thats
correspondingly shorter?
Today we looked at a well know westfield with a CBR1000rr engine fitted so we got a lot of ideas about the installation.
The clutch slave cylinder standoff looks quite easy to fabricate something that will do the job, also getting rid of the water pump, blanking it off
and fitting an external electric one seems straightforward. Chassis mounts seem easy enough too.
Martin
[Edited on 22/1/11 by mef]
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 22/1/11 at 11:30 PM |
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have you seen Tim's stuff. A nice read, I know its a middy, but still lots of info.
http://www.hoverd.org/Tim/
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B120WNY
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| posted on 26/1/11 at 09:22 PM |
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Here's my Mac Type 9R build, I'm using the CBR1000RR engine.
http://www.gtirownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?60149-Paul-B-s-New-R.........../page2
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mef
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| posted on 26/1/11 at 10:42 PM |
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Thanks, that looks great, lots of similar stuff on there to my mates car.
One point, we were told that the original bike exhaust was titanium and required very special welding rods/techniques, you say it's stainless
steel, is that the case and how hard was it for your mate to weld, I've welded stainless steel without a problem but I'm sure you need
some titanium rods for tiging titanium, probably special gas too. I noticed your mate is using a normal gas torch?
Thanks,
Martin
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B120WNY
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| posted on 26/1/11 at 10:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mef
Thanks, that looks great, lots of similar stuff on there to my mates car.
One point, we were told that the original bike exhaust was titanium and required very special welding rods/techniques, you say it's stainless
steel, is that the case and how hard was it for your mate to weld, I've welded stainless steel without a problem but I'm sure you need
some titanium rods for tiging titanium, probably special gas too. I noticed your mate is using a normal gas torch?
Cheers, i'll be doing an update soon, the exhaust is now finished excluding wrapping and one more support/securing bracket.
It's definitely stainless steel, it was welded using oxy/acetylene and 316 stainless steel rods, so you could tig it no problem.
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