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INDY BIRD

posted on 4/2/11 at 05:33 PM Reply With Quote
MNR zzr1400 dyno results

Well vortx went on the dyno today and after a couple of hours playing around with the power commander we ended up with,


190.4 bhp @ calculated fly
159.6 bhp @ wheels
122 ft pounds of torque,

was happy with the results considering i am running 2 cans to the rear exit exhaust, in fact was more torque when we fitted the rear small extra can,

well track day in the next 2 weeks look forward to shaking the car down,

all went well no issues so fingers x

cheers

sean

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daniel mason

posted on 4/2/11 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
great stuff! should be quick enough.






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carpmart

posted on 4/2/11 at 06:48 PM Reply With Quote
That's a pretty good result! Be interested to see the comparison with a ZX12!





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INDY BIRD

posted on 4/2/11 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
did a mk zx12r engine and got 144 @ wheels with power commander custom exhaust and g pack,

zx10r was 127 @ wheels
blackbird was 125 @ wheels
zzr1100 was 124@ wheels

not much in them really,

but the torque is so much more on the zx14

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franky

posted on 4/2/11 at 07:51 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by INDY BIRD
did a mk zx12r engine and got 144 @ wheels with power commander custom exhaust and g pack,

zx10r was 127 @ wheels
blackbird was 125 @ wheels
zzr1100 was 124@ wheels

not much in them really,

but the torque is so much more on the zx14

cheers


that sounds like a realistic dyno too. There's a few 'down hill' dyno's about

I'd have expected more from the zx10, my bike makes 172 at the wheel with a full system and custom map.

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paublo999

posted on 4/2/11 at 08:04 PM Reply With Quote
Hi mate

Power looks about right. Mine was 161bhp on Daytuners dynojet setup in 2008.

Torque seems really high though, I remember mine being 99lbs? Which would be a huge difference. Maybe I am getting old and losing it. Planning to get mine mapped at the end of march and will post the results.

Congrats on progress.





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brookie

posted on 4/2/11 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by INDY BIRD
did a mk zx12r engine and got 144 @ wheels with power commander custom exhaust and g pack,

zx10r was 127 @ wheels
blackbird was 125 @ wheels
zzr1100 was 124@ wheels

think u are wrong jase on here getting 148@wheels and he got the zx10r fitted m8 and that was done at day tuners

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paublo999

posted on 4/2/11 at 08:22 PM Reply With Quote
Depends on which zx10. My bros 2009 hits 151 on daytuners dyno.





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Pdlewis

posted on 4/2/11 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
Do you have any pics of your 2 exhaust can setup? I had a look in your archive and saw the big side can, I'm interested in doing this








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INDY BIRD

posted on 4/2/11 at 08:48 PM Reply With Quote
the zx10r was running a std airbox though so may have been down on power with that??? also no power commander with it just std management system??

power commander and good airfilter may be around 140-150 yep, i was just quoting my cars and what they read ona i would say a reasonably good dyno,


paul yep i was suprised with the torque but running that extra can a 4 ft of exaust seems to have helped the torque,

and i am very happy pulls very well to 10.5k

cheers

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INDY BIRD

posted on 4/2/11 at 08:50 PM Reply With Quote
hi ref exhaust pics they are in my archive one side on and one of the rear with a straight through 2.5" small bike can fitted

the pipe goes under the rear A arm

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Johneturbo

posted on 5/2/11 at 12:22 AM Reply With Quote
Nice one Sean, the torque is very good, would you try a standard type exhaust to compare

i'm still plodding along with mine! hopefuly a few more weeks/months!

question re oil pressure gauge have you taken it from the fitting on the sump next to the standard oil pressure switch think it will be a 3/8 NPT

[Edited on 5/2/11 by Johneturbo]

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franky

posted on 5/2/11 at 07:25 AM Reply With Quote
A good result all round then. I guess there's a lot more drivetrain/frictional losses when installed in a car. How does it feel compared to the other BEC's you've had?
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INDY BIRD

posted on 5/2/11 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote
johneturbo, i am not running the std sump i am using ab perfomances billet sump, so cant answer that one for you,

but i am asuming you could T off the oil pressure switch outlet with no issues,

i am also running a remote filter and oil cooler system,



just to say how it compares to other bec cant say until next sat when i at brands to shake the car down, fingers X

i will not run a std can as always had probs with noise thats why i developed this system for track use really, you prob will get more power but will loose the torque. as they say hp for show torque for go

thanks all

will update after brands

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Johneturbo

posted on 5/2/11 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
I'm also using a shortened sump it's 1.5" deep with trap doors but not the andy bates one, also come with the oil filter relocation bracket, which i have theromostatic sandwich plate with front mount oil cooler.

just it copys the standard sump ie comes with the fitting for the standard oil pressure sensor, and also one 3/8npt that kawasaki use to test the pressure.

so are you taking oil pressure from the remote filter?

if i wasn't going away on holiday next sat i'd have popped down to brands for a lookie

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skippad

posted on 5/2/11 at 06:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johneturbo
I'm also using a shortened sump it's 1.5" deep with trap doors but not the andy bates one, also come with the oil filter relocation bracket, which i have theromostatic sandwich plate with front mount oil cooler.

just it copys the standard sump ie comes with the fitting for the standard oil pressure sensor, and also one 3/8npt that kawasaki use to test the pressure.

so are you taking oil pressure from the remote filter?

if i wasn't going away on holiday next sat i'd have popped down to brands for a lookie


John
if you look on the front face of engine (in the car) near the clutch cover theres bolt behind which is an oilway.
Thats where i took off a braided pipe to a sender which i rubber mounted (definatly do this, or failure will occur)
away from the engine.
Dave

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Johneturbo

posted on 5/2/11 at 07:20 PM Reply With Quote
Nice one dave, do you know the thread size/type

i will do as you say and run the sender elswhere or use a mechanical gauge

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posted on 5/2/11 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
guy guys im getting an inferior complex, my poor little 893cc blade engine only managed to squeeze out 110 at the wheels but then again its 18 years old, boo hoo, still it only weighs 420kg so i bet that trumps you sir...lol
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INDY BIRD

posted on 5/2/11 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
i have ran mine from the sump with a braided hose to the oil pressure sender from the digi dash remotely located,

seems to be ok got the kit from etb instruments,

was going to use the same gallery as mentioned above but just be sure you dont go in to far as this gallery feeds the top of the engine, so you could block it off, just a pre warning,

thanks all

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