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phil_far

posted on 30/5/11 at 04:08 PM Reply With Quote
1/4 mile - 13.82 - Blade 893

Last week I took my car for a 1/4 mile drag race and registered 13.82sec. No burnouts or slicks just normal road tyres.
What is the normal/average time for a carb blade locost?

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Hellfire

posted on 30/5/11 at 04:12 PM Reply With Quote
These are the quarter mile times of a York Raceway drag day we did a few years ago, to give you some idea. Mixture of both BEC's and CEC's and ALL seven style sportcars, so no aero advantage.

11.727 NOS Blackbird BEC
12.123 Nissan 200SX CEC
12.138 Honda S2000 CEC
12.523 ZX12R BEC
12.900 GSXR1000 K2 BEC
13.128 ZX9R BEC
13.274 Fazer 1000 BEC
13.280 954 Blade BEC
13.522 893 Blade BEC
13.555 893 Blade BEC
13.557 R1 BEC
14.131 ZX9R BEC
14.140 Tuned Pinto CEC
14.494 893 Blade BEC
14.675 Tuned Pinto CEC
14.740 2.0 Zetec CEC
14.803 1.6 Toyota CEC
15.260 Pinto CEC

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phil_far

posted on 30/5/11 at 04:25 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks phil...did not do that bad then for a first time...





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owelly

posted on 30/5/11 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
Pah! My Tupperware Turd managed a 12.85 at Santa Pod. It was my first run up the Pod and it got slower over the next two runs until it died...





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AdrianH

posted on 30/5/11 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
Tupperware turd?

So what’s that got?

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owelly

posted on 30/5/11 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
The Turd had an Alfa V6 but after the third one popped, I've gone French with a PugV6. It seems faster but the car isn't very road legal to test it....





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chris mason

posted on 30/5/11 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
What was your Terminal speed Phil?
somewhere around 98-101mph?

For years i've been dismissing the claims that becs do 100 in 8 seconds, or even 10 seconds for that matter, maybe one day people will realise that although they feel/sound quick, they're now lagging behind some of the turbo'd tin tops, these car are about corners and braking rather than straight line speed.

As for burnouts, most becs i've seen do a good burn out tend to have launch issues with bogging down, unless launched at 6k+

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Wadders

posted on 30/5/11 at 05:51 PM Reply With Quote
The times listed above were at York Raceway, I love the place to death, but a leach would have trouble getting grip off the line
reckon most Pod times would be better, although some of the smaller becs might suffer with an over grippy start line.



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Pah! My Tupperware Turd managed a 12.85 at Santa Pod. It was my first run up the Pod and it got slower over the next two runs until it died...







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DRC INDY 7

posted on 30/5/11 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
Looking at that list i should be doing somewhere around 12.1 for the quarter mile





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AdrianH

posted on 30/5/11 at 06:20 PM Reply With Quote
I did my first trip to York yesterday, and it was a bit damp. I don’t know if the proper stocks actually ran. I left around 12:15 to have a 100 mile drive home and they had not been on the track as it was too wet for them with the slick tyres.
The best I could do with my little car was 1/4 ET 15.8941 only a terminal speed of 83.3.

It was fun though and may go again when a bit dryer and at least now I understand some of the set-up.

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scudderfish

posted on 30/5/11 at 06:49 PM Reply With Quote
I saw some quick stuff over weekend...

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loggyboy

posted on 30/5/11 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
The times listed above were at York Raceway, I love the place to death, but a leach would have trouble getting grip off the line
reckon most Pod times would be better, although some of the smaller becs might suffer with an over grippy start line.



Pod is very slippery unless you are on wide slicks, its almost a dead smooth surface. Its also slightly up hill.

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Hellfire

posted on 30/5/11 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
We ran an almost identical time at Santa Pod, compared to York. The only difference was about 20 degrees in temperature. York was about 27 degrees, Santa Pod was about 7 (in March 2007) I reckon we could go slightly faster at Santa Pod given the same conditions. (I'm talking possibly a tenth or two rather than whole seconds)

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matt_gsxr

posted on 30/5/11 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chris mason

For years i've been dismissing the claims that becs do 100 in 8 seconds, or even 10 seconds for that matter, maybe one day people will realise that although they feel/sound quick, they're now lagging behind some of the turbo'd tin tops, these car are about corners and braking rather than straight line speed.




Sadly this is probably true.

But, its not how fast you are going, but how fast you feel you are going.

60mph in a bec feels like 100mph, even faster if you get crap goggles.

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phil_far

posted on 31/5/11 at 04:40 PM Reply With Quote
My terminal speed was logged at 173.4km/hr which woudl eqauet to about 107mph





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matt_gsxr

posted on 31/5/11 at 05:20 PM Reply With Quote
Just ran some numbers which might beinteresting (depending on how the formatting comes out)


http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm
ET ET lb/bhp bhp/metric tonne MPH time to 100
11.727 NOS Blackbird BEC  11.727 ET 6.480504837 lb/bhp 339.8875901 bhp/metric tonne 120.2215367 MPH 9.754491851 time to 100mph
12.123 Nissan 200SX CEC  12.123 ET 7.159428878 lb/bhp 307.6562683 bhp/metric tonne 116.2983406 MPH 10.42405243 time to 100mph
12.138 Honda S2000 CEC  12.138 ET 7.186037234 lb/bhp 306.5170831 bhp/metric tonne 116.1547641 MPH 10.44985119 time to 100mph
12.523 ZX12R BEC  12.523 ET 7.891747937 lb/bhp 279.1071369 bhp/metric tonne 112.5872836 MPH 11.12292579 time to 100mph
12.900 GSXR1000 K2 BEC  12.9 ET 8.626153749 lb/bhp 255.3447615 bhp/metric tonne 109.3001839 MPH 11.80235892 time to 100mph
13.128 ZX9R BEC  13.128 ET 9.091672178 lb/bhp 242.2704128 bhp/metric tonne 107.4037991 MPH 12.22303131 time to 100mph
13.274 Fazer 1000 BEC  13.274 ET 9.398390884 lb/bhp 234.3638607 bhp/metric tonne 106.2236454 MPH 12.49627608 time to 100mph
13.280 954 Blade BEC  13.28 ET 9.411141186 lb/bhp 234.0463423 bhp/metric tonne 106.1757008 MPH 12.50756991 time to 100mph
13.522 893 Blade BEC  13.522 ET 9.935068332 lb/bhp 221.7038774 bhp/metric tonne 104.2773828 MPH 12.96733734 time to 100mph
13.555 893 Blade BEC  13.555 ET 10.00798462 lb/bhp 220.0885847 bhp/metric tonne 104.0237703 MPH 13.03067554 time to 100mph
13.557 R1 BEC  13.557 ET 10.01241522 lb/bhp 219.9911932 bhp/metric tonne 104.0084396 MPH 13.03451918 time to 100mph
14.131 ZX9R BEC  14.131 ET 11.33879107 lb/bhp 194.2573206 bhp/metric tonne 99.78776363 MPH 14.16105491 time to 100mph
14.140 Tuned Pinto CEC  14.14 ET 11.36046981 lb/bhp 193.8866269 bhp/metric tonne 99.72431299 MPH 14.17908991 time to 100mph
14.494 893 Blade BEC  14.494 ET 12.23524963 lb/bhp 180.0243753 bhp/metric tonne 97.29106208 MPH 14.89756581 time to 100mph
14.675 Tuned Pinto CEC  14.675 ET 12.69937634 lb/bhp 173.4449876 bhp/metric tonne 96.09227629 MPH 15.27177893 time to 100mph
14.740 2.0 Zetec CEC  14.74 ET 12.86887298 lb/bhp 171.1605341 bhp/metric tonne 95.66895433 MPH 15.40729707 time to 100mph
14.803 1.6 Toyota CEC  14.803 ET 13.03458718 lb/bhp 168.9844981 bhp/metric tonne 95.26220368 MPH 15.53921642 time to 100mph
15.260 Pinto CEC  15.26 ET 14.27945606 lb/bhp 154.2525963 bhp/metric tonne 92.41214142 MPH 16.5129817 time to 100mph

where MPH is terminal speed for the 1/4 and the time to 100mph is in seconds. I have done a simple interpolation/extrapolation, which isn't good physics, but isn't too bad given all terminals are around 100mph.

I also put the numbers in for the turbo on mine (mental), if I ever get it working quite a lot less than 10s for 100mph.

The bhp/metric tonne includes the drivers mass.

I am not suggesting these mean much, but it was an easy sum. I am burdened with being a physicist, so I can't help myself.

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Rocket_Rabbit

posted on 1/6/11 at 10:59 PM Reply With Quote
Well, I have 380bhp/ton with driver so I must be capable of 11s

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matt_gsxr

posted on 1/6/11 at 11:27 PM Reply With Quote
Rocket_Rabbit 11.29231824 ET 5.796429399 lb/bhp 380 bhp/metric tonne 124.7715456 MPH 9.050395408 time to 100mph

9s to 100mph

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