graham b
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 03:35 PM |
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BEST ATF FOR MT75
can anyone tell me the best ATF to use in a ford MT75 G/BOX
it has been said that REDLINE D4 is the stuff to use
any thoughts ?
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Chippy
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 04:33 PM |
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The correct oil for the MT75 is in fact called MT75. I am pretty sure that they don't like ATF. HTH Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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phelpsa
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 04:34 PM |
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I always thought ATF stood for automatic transmission fluid?
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graham b
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 05:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
The correct oil for the MT75 is in fact called MT75. I am pretty sure that they don't like ATF. HTH Ray
MT75 is a mix between basic atf and basic gear oil........apparently
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britishtrident
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 05:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by graham b
quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
The correct oil for the MT75 is in fact called MT75. I am pretty sure that they don't like ATF. HTH Ray
MT75 is a mix between basic atf and basic gear oil........apparently
yep ATF with the brains knocked out
Similar Rover MTF94 it is an ATF like synthetic gear oil without anti-varnish and detergent additives and a tad more EP additive.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 05:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
I always thought ATF stood for automatic transmission fluid?
A a few older manual gearboxes used ATF because it is lower viscosity than normal gear oils. These days however the trend is towards manufacturer
specific low viscosity manual gear oils. Rover/Land-rover were among the first to go this route with MTF94. MTF94 = Manual Transmission Fluid
1994
[Edited on 15/11/11 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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graham b
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 05:40 PM |
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so has anyone used REDLINE D4 ?
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daviep
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 05:54 PM |
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We used normal ATF in the MT75 boxes fitted to a fleet of over 50 transits which must have collectively done over 750,000 miles with no problems.
Burton Power also specify ATF for the MT75...see
HERE
I'd be happy with ATF.
Davie
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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graham b
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 05:54 PM |
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found this on the web
so its a done deal for me.....
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ATF is very common in manual boxes as it speeds up the syncro and helps shifting and reduces drag.
These days and with a modern roller bearing all syncro (even on reverse) box like the mt75 or it's transferse application the mtx75, I'd
use the best ATF available (red line) and I'm a fan of mollyslip in with it. However any ATF with the correct grade should be suitable,
don't waste your money buying Ford fluid.
As a note, Jaguar and Rover among others had shifting problems, so they ditched the carefully researched and specified fluid and instructed garages to
refil with ATF or 15w40 engine oil (modern oil has anti foaming additives) - works wonders for the change. I tend to use atf + a good anti wear
additave such as mollyslip + an additive to make the oil seals go supple again in my boxes and have excellent shift and low drag as a result. I take
mfr specs as a guide and interesting information, not the bible. As the example with Jaguar shows, half the time they don't know what they are
doing. Red Line make an ATF so robust it is capable of protecting a back axle on a truck better than an EP90 gear oil.... all hail long chain
synthetics!
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thanks anyway guys
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Bare
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 06:41 PM |
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Redline trans oil was proven to destroy the plastic cages on Honda NTN brand bearings.. lovely. Fill yer boots .
Chrysler used to use ATF in a lot of their transmissions.
Note that Chrysler is erm.. on the ropes.. currently.
Regardless it's a going concern in comparison to that Rover firm ;-0
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phelpsa
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 06:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
I always thought ATF stood for automatic transmission fluid?
A a few older manual gearboxes used ATF because it is lower viscosity than normal gear oils. These days however the trend is towards manufacturer
specific low viscosity manual gear oils. Rover/Land-rover were among the first to go this route with MTF94. MTF94 = Manual Transmission Fluid
1994
[Edited on 15/11/11 by britishtrident]
You learn something new every day ;D
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britishtrident
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| posted on 15/11/11 at 06:51 PM |
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Moly in a synchromesh gearbox is not a good thing, the synchroniser rings need a certain degree offriction to work, Molyslip is too effective at
reducing t friction.
MTF94 supplanted previous Rover recommended gear oils including 10w/40 engine oil (nb 10w40) and ATF.
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