DANMAN
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posted on 26/11/12 at 06:25 AM |
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Polo radiator weight.
Hi guys.
Does anyone know what a Polo radiator weighs?
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cliftyhanger
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posted on 26/11/12 at 07:23 AM |
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Next to nothing.
Not got one handy, but I reckon about 1kg. Empty. Maybe less. I think the box mine came in weighed more.
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dickie b
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posted on 26/11/12 at 08:52 AM |
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I can help here - just been out and weighed an old Polo rad I have on the workbench
This is the slightly larger of the Polo rads.. (320 x 520 mm)
the bare unit ( no temp sensor) weighed in at 1863 grams
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cliftyhanger
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posted on 26/11/12 at 08:54 AM |
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Crikey, I really thought they would be less than that. Or maybe my little finger is stronger than I thought
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dickie b
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posted on 26/11/12 at 08:58 AM |
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yup - I was surprised too, so weighed it three times to check
(Salter digital kitchen scale - dont tell the missus...)
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DANMAN
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posted on 26/11/12 at 11:25 AM |
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Just weighed my Escort one and it's 6kgs, although that's with the thermo fan attached so I'd say it's probably a good 4.5kgs.
Seems a worthwhile upgrade to a Polo unit.
[Edited on 26/11/12 by DANMAN]
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dhutch
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posted on 26/11/12 at 12:22 PM |
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Ive got the wieghts recorded somewhere for the 20mm thin core version, compaired to the copper ford one, both wet and dry, but certainly a diffrence
given its right over the nose.
Totally of the top of my head now, but its something like
- 20mm Polo 0.8kg dry, 2kg wet
- Ford Copper 2.5kg dry, 6.5kg wet
Daniel
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DANMAN
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posted on 26/11/12 at 09:20 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by dhutch
Ive got the wieghts recorded somewhere for the 20mm thin core version, compaired to the copper ford one, both wet and dry, but certainly a diffrence
given its right over the nose.
Totally of the top of my head now, but its something like
- 20mm Polo 0.8kg dry, 2kg wet
- Ford Copper 2.5kg dry, 6.5kg wet
Damn! Definately a worth while upgrade then to save 4.5kgs.
My only dilemma is piping. My current radiator has the top inlet and bottom outlet as per the norm but then has another smaller diameter pipe welded
in the top like this:
The Polo radiator has plastic end tanks by the looks of it so I'm not sure I can add the extra inlet to it.
My coolant pipe work looks something like this:
The car uses two electric water pumps (instead of the factory mechanical one). There are two thermostats, TH1 is mounted seperately on a bracket and
TH2 is the coolant outlet from the engine.
The "Eng Housing" is the coolant inlet to the engine. This is how the car came to me. Seems a little complicated to me but it seems to
work.
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bigfoot4616
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posted on 27/11/12 at 09:06 AM |
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the polo rad already has that extra inlet you want.
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DANMAN
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posted on 27/11/12 at 09:43 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by bigfoot4616
the polo rad already has that extra inlet you want.
FN Sweet! Which model radiator should I be looking for?
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loggyboy
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posted on 27/11/12 at 10:15 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by bigfoot4616
the polo rad already has that extra inlet you want.
The polo ones ive seen only have 2 connections, 32mm at top and 32mm at bottom. (both on passenger side)
Mistral Motorsport
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dhutch
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posted on 27/11/12 at 10:22 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
The polo ones ive seen only have 2 connections, 32mm at top and 32mm at bottom. (both on passenger side)
Same, and a tiny m4 ish bleed
hole.
Daniel
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DANMAN
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posted on 27/11/12 at 10:38 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
quote: Originally posted by bigfoot4616
the polo rad already has that extra inlet you want.
The polo ones ive seen only have 2 connections, 32mm at top and 32mm at bottom. (both on passenger side)
Hmmm Not so FN sweet
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loggyboy
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posted on 27/11/12 at 10:39 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by dhutch
quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
The polo ones ive seen only have 2 connections, 32mm at top and 32mm at bottom. (both on passenger side)
Same, and a tiny m4 ish bleed
hole.
Daniel
Not seen the bleed/breather - but mines the slightly wider golf version.
[Edited on 27-11-12 by loggyboy]
Mistral Motorsport
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adithorp
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posted on 27/11/12 at 02:05 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
quote: Originally posted by dhutch
quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
The polo ones ive seen only have 2 connections, 32mm at top and 32mm at bottom. (both on passenger side)
Same, and a tiny m4 ish bleed
hole.
Daniel
Not seen the bleed/breather - but mines the slightly wider golf version.
[Edited on 27-11-12 by loggyboy]
Should still have one. It has been known for people to block it off if space is tight in the nose; It comes out pointing to the side and there
isn't always room to attach a pipe.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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steve m
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posted on 27/11/12 at 02:21 PM |
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"Should still have one. It has been known for people to block it off if space is tight in the nose; It comes out pointing to the side and there
isn't always room to attach a pipe. "
I was going to add that comment as well!
On my setup, the rad was a very snug fit, and i had to block off the small header pipe, otherwise the nosecone would not go on
Steve
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bigfoot4616
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posted on 27/11/12 at 03:37 PM |
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its blocked of on mine as well although i reckon there would just about be space to get a pipe on it in the striker.
sounds like its very car dependent as to if its useable.
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loggyboy
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posted on 27/11/12 at 04:53 PM |
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Definately none on mine, but as I say, must be the fact mines the slightly wider (430mm) golf one.
Mistral Motorsport
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dhutch
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posted on 27/11/12 at 05:26 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by loggyboy
Definately none on mine, but as I say, must be the fact mines the slightly wider (430mm) golf one.
Yeah, thats not got the same core-ends as the radiator most people use. Be bleed point just has the bolt in it that it came with, and its only
used for intial bleeding.
Daniel
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BangedupTiger
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posted on 27/11/12 at 07:39 PM |
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Pretty sure mine only has inlet and outlet.
http://www.adrad.co.uk/prices/prices.php?id=VW302&model=POLO&make=VOLKSWAGEN
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loggyboy
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posted on 27/11/12 at 08:32 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by BangedupTiger
Pretty sure mine only has inlet and outlet.
http://www.adrad.co.uk/prices/prices.php?id=VW302&model=POLO&make=VOLKSWAGEN
Seems to be an 8mm diameter pipe at the top left.
Cant see why its needed though, a little air would soon be forced around and reach the header tank.
Mistral Motorsport
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DANMAN
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posted on 28/11/12 at 01:00 AM |
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What about using a Fireblade radiator? Are they any good?
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DANMAN
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posted on 29/11/12 at 12:32 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by dhutch
Ive got the wieghts recorded somewhere for the 20mm thin core version, compaired to the copper ford one, both wet and dry, but certainly a diffrence
given its right over the nose.
Totally of the top of my head now, but its something like
- 20mm Polo 0.8kg dry, 2kg wet
- Ford Copper 2.5kg dry, 6.5kg wet
Daniel
Daniel.
Do you know which model or part number this one is?
I am thinking of using a 'T' piece in the top pipe for the extra inlet I need. This should work ok shouldn't it?
Dan.
[Edited on 29/11/12 by DANMAN]
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Benzo
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posted on 4/12/12 at 09:14 PM |
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Just out of interest, im in the market for a new Rad, I have seen that Rally design are now doing an Alloy Polo Rad..
Link -
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1481_2200&products_id=16443
Would there be much of a cooling advantage to the Alloy Polo Rad over the standard one? and would the Alloy one weigh much more than the standard
plastic polo one?
I hace run the polo pastic rad over the Past few years and found it isnt just up to the job for cooling my blade when racing and stuck up someones
ass...
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bigfoot4616
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posted on 5/12/12 at 05:33 PM |
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i was in the same position as you, standard polo rad not up to keeping the R1 cool on track.
i've just ordered an alloy rad from andy bates. its quite a bit more than that RD one but as i got sick of cooling issues last year i wanted
something that i know will do the job.
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