Mark18
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| posted on 11/4/05 at 08:27 PM |
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Petrol tank .dwg file
I have an AutoCad .dwg file of a petrol tank I have drawn to sit in front of the engine - maybe someone might find it useful. It holds around 25
litres and fits a standard locost chassis. If you're thinking of using it, just be sure there's enough room for the steering rack UJ -
mine is further up the column.
Pic of tank
Mark
"I don't know what I may seem to the world. But as to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore and diverting myself
now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than the ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." -
Isaac Newton
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 08:39 AM |
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it begs the question - WHY ?
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Mark18
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 10:35 AM |
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I won't be able to afford 2 cars, so I'll need some form of boot in the car.
Mark
"I don't know what I may seem to the world. But as to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore and diverting myself
now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than the ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." -
Isaac Newton
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 10:55 AM |
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2 problems I see.
no airflow into engine bay and fuel tank next to engine - is that legal ?
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 11:51 AM |
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You can fit a tank in the back and still have reasonable storage space, especially if you're willing to accept a 25L limit which wont get you
that far if you're using it as every day transport. Rather than have the tank at the back, maybe put in a wide shallow tank above the axle and
have the section behind that panelled out - it would be sufficiently large to hold a couple of small weekend bags or a few bags of shopping.
You've also got the passenger compartment to use of course.
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Peteff
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 11:55 AM |
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Fuel tank's on top of the engine on a bike, can't see the problem there. I still think there must be better solutions though, how about a
roof rack  . Seriously, fit a full roll cage and a locking top box type thing with removable brackets. Will you get your radiator hoses round a front
tank?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 12:12 PM |
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Another option which might be better is to put it on the top of the scuttle as Dax do I think
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locoboy
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 12:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
how about a roof rack . Seriously, fit a full roll cage and a locking top box type thing with removable brackets.
Nice low C of G idea there Pete, not to mention the frightening sound of fuel swashing about above your head!
Hey how about fitting a full roll cage and welding bungs on the ends and using the cage tubes as a fuel tank
ATB
Locoboy
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 12:48 PM |
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LOL, some people on here really do scare me sometimes
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 12:53 PM |
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Ever travelled in a light aircraft? In most case you're either sitting on, sitting under, or otherwise bl**dy close to many gallons of aviation
fuel (it is usually close to the C of G).
Mind you, it's not to often that you get into a major collision in a light aircraft... 
David
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Mark18
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 12:56 PM |
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There's plenty of space for pipes around the side of the tank - it doesn't quite sit flush to the chassis rails, also the sides on the car
are flush with the nosecone rather than the chassis, so there's even more room there. For the same reason I'd be surprised if airflow is a
problem, but it's still a small concern.
As for the tank size, 25l is 5.5 gallons by my calculations which is as big as any locost tank I have seen? Maybe I'm wrong.
I will really need every ounce of space I can get - I play hockey in goals, so there's a lot of gear that I will be carting around on a regular
basis for that.
Mark
"I don't know what I may seem to the world. But as to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore and diverting myself
now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than the ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." -
Isaac Newton
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alister667
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 01:49 PM |
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In Pete's defence I read it that he suggested using a roof rack for luggage not for the petrol tank.... I might have misread that though
;-)
Second, Mark, you are seriously hardcore to use a BEC in Ireland as your only motorised transport! The very best of luck to you.
I've racked up about 5k miles in the last 12 months, north and south of the border and I would highly recommend a second tin-top car.
Remember you can't leave Sevens in a car park like ordinary cars - not because they'll get stolen, but someone will come along (probably
drunk) and sit in it (and probably pull lumps of fibreglass off on the way out) or a child will get up on the bonnet (cue cracking noises), or someone
will 'test the rear suspension' by pushing down on unsupported fibreglass at the back.... So many stupid things can happen your pride and
joy it's scary!
The roads (especially south of the border) aren't as good as they should be and you can be guarenteed a fairly 'involved' journey up
any back road - and motorways are just no fun. In autumn the leaf debris turns the roads into a skating rink - and with a BEC I guarentee you the
back end will step out when you least expect it - I expect most BEC owners here have had many 'moments' especially in the wet!
In the winter you have gritters and roadsalt to look forward to - as well as biting cold (the least of your problems to be honest if you have a good
motorbike coat) and of course ice.
If I were you I'd get an extra couple of hundred quid, buy an old Corsa and get my main insurance policy to cover the driving of other cars -
you might have to put your Luego or the Corsa in a family members name or something to get round it but I think it makes sense.
Out of interest where abouts are you based?
All the best
Ali
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 02:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alister667
In Pete's defence I read it that he suggested using a roof rack for luggage not for the petrol tank.... I might have misread that though
;-)
Good point, I think you're right
Ive seen that before, there was a Caterham with a full cage and a roofbox down at Le Mans last year, probably some pics on blatchat somewhere.
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locoboy
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 02:55 PM |
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PMSL
I think i misread it too
I saw a westie on the way to Barmouth one year with a surfboard strapped onto the screen and roll bar with a tether from the point on the board to a
front towing eye
looked quite cool as he blasted past me and off into the distance.
ATB
Locoboy
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Peteff
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 04:45 PM |
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Dumbass ideas.
Why would the fuel tank have removable brackets Col . I never actually thought of putting the fuel tank up there, it's a masterstroke, does
away with the the fuel pump
This was what I was thinking of.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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carnut
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 04:58 PM |
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In the spirit of the great Chapman why not make your seats into fuel tanks with fuel behind and down each side if you.
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Peteff
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 05:02 PM |
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Integrate an ashtray into the filler cap as well. Don't blame me, Col started it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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locoboy
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 05:20 PM |
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ok ok ok.............. i hold my hand up (with no smouldering cigarette in it either!)
Just didnt read it properly
Any anyway Pete you may want to make the fuel tank removable because it would be a pig to fill when its on the roof ,
lift it down, fill it, collar one of the petrol station workers into giving you a lift back up top with it .................
you could be onto a space saving idea there you know.
ATB
Locoboy
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Mark18
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| posted on 12/4/05 at 07:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alister667
In Pete's defence I read it that he suggested using a roof rack for luggage not for the petrol tank.... I might have misread that though
;-)
Second, Mark, you are seriously hardcore to use a BEC in Ireland as your only motorised transport! The very best of luck to you.
I've racked up about 5k miles in the last 12 months, north and south of the border and I would highly recommend a second tin-top car.
Remember you can't leave Sevens in a car park like ordinary cars - not because they'll get stolen, but someone will come along (probably
drunk) and sit in it (and probably pull lumps of fibreglass off on the way out) or a child will get up on the bonnet (cue cracking noises), or someone
will 'test the rear suspension' by pushing down on unsupported fibreglass at the back.... So many stupid things can happen your pride and
joy it's scary!
The roads (especially south of the border) aren't as good as they should be and you can be guarenteed a fairly 'involved' journey up
any back road - and motorways are just no fun. In autumn the leaf debris turns the roads into a skating rink - and with a BEC I guarentee you the
back end will step out when you least expect it - I expect most BEC owners here have had many 'moments' especially in the wet!
In the winter you have gritters and roadsalt to look forward to - as well as biting cold (the least of your problems to be honest if you have a good
motorbike coat) and of course ice.
If I were you I'd get an extra couple of hundred quid, buy an old Corsa and get my main insurance policy to cover the driving of other cars -
you might have to put your Luego or the Corsa in a family members name or something to get round it but I think it makes sense.
Out of interest where abouts are you based?
All the best
Ali
Have to say I agree 100% and that's probably what I'll end up doing - I'm certainly not too happy about the prospect of leaving it
in carparks etc. but I can't imagine it being much worse than a bike in other respects. One way to find out I suppose!
I guess there's no takers on the tank then - I thought it was a good idea - all the feedback is still appreciated - there's always
something you overlook.
Oh yeah and I'm based in Kilkenny.
Mark
"I don't know what I may seem to the world. But as to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore and diverting myself
now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than the ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." -
Isaac Newton
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