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Author: Subject: '97 blade clutch assembly
Alez

posted on 9/6/05 at 06:26 AM Reply With Quote
'97 blade clutch assembly

In my '97 blade clutch, the last disc (outer) goes in a different position than the others. I'm not sure if I remember well, but when I took my clutch appart, I think I had 2 discs in that position instead of 1 (plus the steel disc in between). Unfortunately I didn't count how many discs I have to see if I have an extra disc of each kind as I was once recommended. Is having 2 discs in a different position (outer) instead of 1 wrong?? Because my clutch used to go fine (uprated springs is the only mod done to it), and now it's slipping whenever y push hard

Cheers,

Alex

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shortie

posted on 9/6/05 at 07:15 AM Reply With Quote
I seem to remember that is should only one last outer plate that fits in a different position.

I can't remember whether the first plate is also different.

Someone else should be able to confirm.

Rich.

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mad-butcher

posted on 9/6/05 at 07:23 AM Reply With Quote
you're right rich 1st plate has a larger diameter centre to take the anti judder spring and seat
tony

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ChrisGamlin

posted on 9/6/05 at 08:08 AM Reply With Quote
Yep, it should only be the last plate that seats differently, not the last two. As to the first plate, if you like you can ditch the anti judder spring and plate, and just put in a normal friction plate in its place, giving you slightly more clutch surface area. The anti judder spring / plate seems to do very little and the above is a well trodden process in a lot of BECs, tuned bikes and sidecars etc.

[Edited on 9/6/05 by ChrisGamlin]






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Alez

posted on 9/6/05 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
I think I got it right but I'd like to make sure, so here are a few questions:

-Anti judder spring and plate / seat: these are two thin rings that go inside (you put them in first of all), right?

-Friction plate: these are the brown padded ones, not the steel ones, right?

I'm not sure which type is the first plate you normally put in (brown or steel). If they need to be alternated and you substitute those thin rings by a brown plate, I suppose that this is because normally, the first plate is steel. Otherwise I would need an extra pair of plates, one of each type?

Thanks!

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ChrisGamlin

posted on 9/6/05 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
Yep, friction plates are the brown padded ones, "steels" are the - err steel ones

Also correct on the anti judder, its a combination of a slightly different friction plate (bigger inside diameter as Tony said), and a very thin metal ring(s) - This is not one of the "steel" plates though, the anti judder ring is very thin and made of sprung steel, so to replace the anti judder plate/ring you just need an extra full size friction plate.

If you're 100% sure youve got all the old ones out, you should see the end of the clutch basket inside which is steel, so first plate in is a friction plate. This can be the anti judder one with the steel ring, or just a normal friction if you have bought an additional plate, and dont put the anti judder plate / spring in at all.

Then its obviously a case of alternating friction / steel, with the very last plate being a friction plate locking into the clutch basket differently, as you have seen.

Chris






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Alez

posted on 9/6/05 at 10:08 AM Reply With Quote
Thank you Chris, I don't think it can be explained more clearly, it's all crystal to me now.
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