tegwin
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 10:25 AM |
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Choosing a BEC engine
Im trying to decide which bike engine to go for, im running on a budget, so the slightly older R1 engines are quite attractive, given that a decent
ZZR1400 is about 2.5K
I can appreciate that the ZZR engine would be amazing but its just too much....
So, how reliable is an 03 R1 in a BEC situation? Is it going to keep falling appart?
The other option is a blackbird engine from a CBR 1100...similar power to the R1, just a bit more torque, would this be ok in a bec?
If I buy a kit from a reputable source with ECU and clocks, would I need anything else to get the engine into the car?
Obviously need a prop and adapter, but are there any other big costs involved with this?
[Edited on 3/2/08 by tegwin]
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imp paul
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 10:30 AM |
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this mite be just the job
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAWASAKI-ZX12R-ZX-12-R-2002-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ150211208589QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10464QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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worX
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 10:33 AM |
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I know you are obviously just at the planning stage at the moment, but try and avoid the 03/04 R1 engine specifically - they are not the best
engine's to use in a BEC as they don't "lend" themselves to being in a car or sidecar although they were brilliant in the
bike...
HTH
Steve
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russbost
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 10:49 AM |
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The Blackbird is well known for oil starvation probs on no.3 cyl - Avoid!!
Why not go for the new ZX10 engine - more power & torque than the R1 (I think?) & absolutely unburstable.
The budget choice is a pre '95 ZZR1100, no emissions & CAT issues & costs about tuppence
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tegwin
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 11:00 AM |
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Hmm... the kwak ZX 12R or 10R looks nice...The former has 178Hp and 134Nm of torque...Thats one hell of a lot!
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hobbsy
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 11:31 AM |
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Its the 04/05 to avoid in the R1 in a car.
and the 02/03 5PW (first injected one) is fine.
Just to clear that up as a previous post said 03/04.
Though someone will probably point out there were early or late registrations of both and therefore some crossover...
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clanger
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 11:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by imp paul
this mite be just the job
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KAWASAKI-ZX12R-ZX-12-R-2002-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ150211208589QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10464QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Had my eye on this. Already emailed the guy.
Just bare engine. Stuff to get it running sold separate :-((((((
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worX
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 12:21 PM |
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Funny, I was going to put 03/04/05!
So it was the crossover that I was referring to that it started at!
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
quote:
Originally posted by hobbsy
Its the 04/05 to avoid in the R1 in a car.
and the 02/03 5PW (first injected one) is fine.
Just to clear that up as a previous post said 03/04.
Though someone will probably point out there were early or late registrations of both and therefore some crossover...
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Hellfire
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 01:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Hmm... the kwak ZX 12R or 10R looks nice...The former has 178Hp and 134Nm of torque...Thats one hell of a lot!
Busa performance for half the price.........  Just make sure you get all the necessary bits and pieces, otherwise it could prove costly.
Phil
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tegwin
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 02:26 PM |
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Silly question...
but which "necessery pieces" do you mean?
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Hellfire
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| posted on 3/2/08 at 06:57 PM |
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With the ZX12R engine the ram pipes/trumpets and air intake temp sensor are mounted in the frame and can be quite easily overlooked and forgotten.
Also, the clocks, fuel pump, fuel level sender and battery box c/w relays can be used from the bike.
Phil
[Edited on 3-2-08 by Hellfire]
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MB CUSTOMS
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| posted on 4/2/08 at 06:06 AM |
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If you look around hard enough and i dont mean ebay as every man and his dog are on there,it is possible to pick up a light accident damaged early
zx12 or hayabusa for under £1,800 take off the bits you need, sell the rest. I have just bought an 02 cosmetic damage only hayabusa 9,000 miles on the
clock for £1,300.00 as the donar for a customers bec.
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clanger
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| posted on 4/2/08 at 07:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MB CUSTOMS
If you look around hard enough and i dont mean ebay as every man and his dog are on there,it is possible to pick up a light accident damaged early
zx12 or hayabusa for under £1,800 take off the bits you need, sell the rest. I have just bought an 02 cosmetic damage only hayabusa 9,000 miles on the
clock for £1,300.00 as the donar for a customers bec.
Done just that
Mine was from the Bayof E though, just lucky that every man was out looking for his dog !!!!!
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