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Granny vs Sierra
GO - 24/2/03 at 03:15 PM

I'm probably completely wrong in this, but isn't the running gear used on the Granada pretty much the same as the Sierra?

I'm trying to locate a donor, but am coming up with a big fat zero 2 litre Pinto'd Sierras.

The 2.0 Granny is a Pinto engine isn't? Just trying to increase my options!

Might have to settly for a measly 1800...

Also, does anyone have a link to a site that lists which model Sierras used Pintos and which are CVH? Or is it an age thing?

Too many questions in one post, sorry!


ChrisW - 24/2/03 at 03:16 PM

I believe the 1.8 was the only CVH..?

Chris


kingr - 24/2/03 at 03:44 PM

Nope, there's a 1.6 that was introduced later, the 2.0 litre used the (lovely, ahem) DOHC.

Kingr


Stu16v - 24/2/03 at 06:07 PM

1.8 can be obtained in pinto and cvh variants.
Quick ref guide....

Silver rocker cover, dizzy at front of cyl head = cvh

Black rocker cover, dizzy at bottom right hand side, at front of engine =pinto

DOHC cast into rocker cover = 8v double over head cam

Cosworth cast into rocker cover = you have probably got yourself a bargain!!!

Unfortunately it doesnt tell you what cc the engine is, but gives you a head start.

HTH Stu.


GO - 24/2/03 at 06:19 PM

A 2wd Cossie is definately my most wanted donor at the moment, not holding out too much hope tho...

Thanks for the info Stu, what I really wanted tho was a way of identifying what engine a car has from the limited info in your typical "1988 1.8GL Sierra, rusty old bucket, excellent engine - £10ono" type advert, without having to phone the owner up and ask them to check out the engine bay for me! Guess I'm just being lazy tho...


chrisg - 24/2/03 at 09:02 PM

There was a 1.8 pinto but most 1.8 sierras are CVH. I've never seen a 1.8 pinto-ever. 2.0 sierras were pinto up to about h reg then DOHC. 1.6 were pinto and then CVH from around the same time.

Confusing aint it?

More confusing at the time as we were selling pinto 1.6 sierras at the same time as CVH engined ones!

Cheers

Chris


auzziejim - 24/2/03 at 10:28 PM

www.crustworld.co.uk

this will tell you what engine your looking at!

hth

james


bob - 24/2/03 at 10:42 PM

Theres a 1.6 for sale in the FOR SALE section,fifty quid or near offer.
You could sell the 1.6 and 4 speed and get a 2 litre and 5 speed for it

And the bonus is the car still has a bit of MOT and tax on it,so no trailer.

I've driven it and it all works fine.


stephen_gusterson - 24/2/03 at 10:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
There was a 1.8 pinto but most 1.8 sierras are CVH. I've never seen a 1.8 pinto-ever. 2.0 sierras were pinto up to about h reg then DOHC. 1.6 were pinto and then CVH from around the same time.

Confusing aint it?

More confusing at the time as we were selling pinto 1.6 sierras at the same time as CVH engined ones!

Cheers

Chris



i used to have a sierra co car once - c reg estate - thought that was a 1.8 pinto......or have I lost the plot?





atb

steve


Stu16v - 24/2/03 at 10:59 PM

No you havent Steve, my Mum had one too, on an F plate. The engine is now seeing active life in a mates Locost, and the gearbox is patiently waiting in my car to have the guts ripped out of it!

Cheers, Stu.


bob - 24/2/03 at 10:59 PM

no your still sane,i think the 1.8 pinto was a economy engine or something like that.

There is also a 2.3 pinto,but not in this country oz i think maybe taunus might be wrong


stephen_gusterson - 27/2/03 at 08:04 PM

well, I can tell you at 1.8 litres it was slower in the sierra than the 1.6 fitted in the cavalier of the time.

I know, I couldnt keep up with a mates at the time. In fact, he was the bosses wassock 19 year old son. Everyone used to rib him up.



One of the best was when we wenr out together on a visit to a customer.

He fell asleep on the way when I was driving.

I yelled out really loud "F*^king hell" - he woke with a start expecting to see the last few milliseconds of his life.

heh.


atb

steve


[Edited on 27/2/03 by stephen_gusterson]


Liam - 28/2/03 at 12:04 AM

Re: the original question...

If you're after a 2.0 pinto then I'm pretty sure you can consider grannies too. The only difference as far as I know is that they have 5-stud hubs as opposed to the sierras 4-studs. Quoted track difference is only about 25mm so I expect they use the same driveshafts too (since there is quite a fair bit of movement in the joints).

According to my granny haynes manual, some 2.0 grannies have the slightly latger 7.5" diff. You probably wont be able to tell till you've got it off, but it shouldn't matter anyway - I think most chassis manafacturers support the 7.5" diff cos big power boys use cossie ones - but do check or you'll have to get your grinder out if you go the granny route and end up with a 7.5. Course if you're building your own chassis it dont matter at all.

Liam


Browser - 8/3/03 at 07:33 AM

Thank god I'm using a phase 1 CItroen BX 16 valve, they only fitted one engine to that!