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Toyota Tercel 4WD?
millenniumtree - 3/11/06 at 03:14 AM

http://madison.craigslist.org/car/229364367.html

TWO cars for $400!!

What could I use from these babies? 4WD transmission?, rear axle? Hubs?

Hmm, in doing more research:

4wd transmission is 1 unit, front axle near the back of the engine, with a solid rear axle in the back

The engine is less than 80hp, so nothing in the driveline is that strong.

Selectable 4wd, probably locks up the front and rear shafts, making turning at high speed rather scary.

Hubs and steering rack may be useful.

Since I really want to get a 160hp engine with an independent rear, I probably shouldn't bother with buying two rust buckets that I can use hubs and steering rack off of.

Unless I'm missing something fantastic that I can get off of these? Anyone?

[Edited on 3/11/06 by millenniumtree]


akumabito - 3/11/06 at 09:06 PM

Well, you could build an off-road Seven!


goodall - 4/11/06 at 08:35 PM

i'm about 2 start building a locost 7 AWD but i'm not sure how simple this would be 2 achieve because of the front surspenion.

does anyone know of a sutiable AWD car as a donor. i really want a drive train that can take more that 100 bhp as i'm thinking about useing an adui 5 or maybe if i can find a V6 of sum sort. i was thinking about a sierra 4x4 but i'm not sure if it a permenant all wheel drive system.

[Edited on 4/11/06 by goodall]


akumabito - 5/11/06 at 01:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by goodall
i'm about 2 start building a locost 7 AWD but i'm not sure how simple this would be 2 achieve because of the front surspenion.

does anyone know of a sutiable AWD car as a donor. i really want a drive train that can take more that 100 bhp as i'm thinking about useing an adui 5 or maybe if i can find a V6 of sum sort. i was thinking about a sierra 4x4 but i'm not sure if it a permenant all wheel drive system.

[Edited on 4/11/06 by goodall]


Pretty much all AWD sedans (not offroad vehicles) have permanent 4WD I believe. The Sierra 4x4 uses an AWD version of the MT75 transmission. I believe there's someone here who uses the RWD version of the same gearbox and mated it to a V6 engine..


goodall - 5/11/06 at 10:00 AM

so my next question is; does anyone know if ford used a viscous coupling, a clutch or hopefully a diff in the middle power split after the gearbox?

i know that a lot of manufactures used a viscous coupling or a clutch rather than a diff as the central power split, and since a viscous coupling or a clutch isn't a permanent drive, it really isn't as effective as a diff. i'm only aware of audi useing a diff in the middle but their gearbox is unsuitable.

[Edited on 5/11/06 by goodall]


79 civic - 7/11/06 at 02:25 PM

you could use just about any subaru.... impreza or legacy. impreza being the smaller of the two.


iank - 7/11/06 at 02:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
Well, you could build an off-road Seven!

...



Nice picture, you can already buy 7 style cars for classic trials that look similar (though only 2wd)

Troll for example:


goodall - 7/11/06 at 04:42 PM

i could, but subarus would cost too much!

does anyone have pictures or a subaru gearbox??


Liam - 7/11/06 at 04:50 PM

Subarus are like audis in that the front diff is in the gearbox so the engine is infront of the front axle. Useless for a 7.
The ford system is decent with three proper diffs, the centre and rear being limited slip, and 2/3 of power to the rear. The only other systems i know of that would be suitable (i.e. the front diff is separate and can be moved infront of the engine) are the rare 4WD BMW 3 and 5 series and nissan skyline. But ford most suitable and easiest and cheapest to find.

Liam


goodall - 7/11/06 at 05:21 PM

ah right i didn't kno the spilt wasn't 50:50 i was hopen that maybe it wasen't but didn't know. that makes me want 2 use a sierra gearbox all the more now because she'll be a good bit tale happy still with out goin out of control be yond my abilites too quickly


79 civic - 14/11/06 at 03:21 PM

you could use the newer sti transmission which lets you vary the power split a tad


Marcus - 14/11/06 at 03:53 PM

Is it me, or does that 'off road' 7 picture have a little 'something'?
I quite like the idea - Hmmmm.......


akumabito - 14/11/06 at 11:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus
Is it me, or does that 'off road' 7 picture have a little 'something'?
I quite like the idea - Hmmmm.......


I know! I like it!


goodall - 26/11/06 at 05:50 PM

Porsche Carrera 4 uses the audi system, but the engine is in the boot and the gearbox mounted diff becomes the rear diff and the rear diff becumes the front diff





[Edited on 26/11/06 by goodall]


Arthur Dent - 27/11/06 at 08:37 PM

I believe the bolt pattern is 4x100 which would match nicely to some Miata front spindles ... nothing else jumps out as super useful.

(the Tercel has struts at the front).