pilchard
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| posted on 4/1/11 at 10:39 PM |
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2CV rat rod -dont kill me-questions
Hello, Im totally new to this, never buit anything, always wanted a Locost, always wanted a Hot Rod.
My questions are:
1. Whats the legalitys of exposed engine?
2. I know you can tune the old 2CV engine and cut away metal you get a little bit of comedy nippy
3. Is this the right place to ask questions about my idea - ie Rat Rod-you know lowered roof, exposed lump, big loud exhausts, unnecesarily large rear
tyres, lowered chassis,bare minimum weight (id be going Ally panels i guess).
I am handy with welding mechanics and electrics etc
whaddya think?
cheers
>hides<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w_sy6VnZvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU7DTQvdvpU
thats where im heading, but i want the engine to be seen.
[Edited on 4/1/11 by pilchard]
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 4/1/11 at 10:44 PM |
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I'm not up to date on the latest rules, but I can't imagine you'd be allowed an exposed engine at all - they don't even like
accessible hot surfaces and have limits on how sharp edges can be. As you're modifying the car and not building one, I'm not sure how it
fits in, but the police can even stop and book you for having sharp/rusty body panels that pose a danger to pedestrians etc.
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 4/1/11 at 10:45 PM |
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put a scooby doo engine in a two cv
[Edited on 4-1-11 by mangogrooveworkshop]
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 4/1/11 at 10:48 PM |
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http://youtu.be/wqvwIxYILUI bit more expensive donor
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 4/1/11 at 10:56 PM |
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I think it looks great. A bit Gestapo looking. You should put the SS badge on the front as well.
I built a ford pop with an open engine, and it was fine. Its only scratch builds that youll have problems with IVA.
Where are you based? your local hot rod club might be able to offer some more sound advice.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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marcjagman
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| posted on 4/1/11 at 11:16 PM |
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You are not legally allowed to drive a motor vehicle on the road in the UK with exposed engine or tyres. Doesn't mean you wont get away with it
but if your stopped your car will be towed.
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blue2cv
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 08:54 AM |
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Ahhh, my territory, 2cvs arent exactly the heaviest of vehicles, welding them can be fun at times, tuning the 602 engine is not a prob, various cams
etc available, i make grp wings etc for them, lowering is easy, have a look at some 2cv racing the cars sit real low and barely have any roll on
bends, i had an article in triple c many moons ago when Dave Walker said our race car was one of best handling cars he'd driven, if youre keen,
ask any q's you want, i'll try and answer, right now wheres my flak jacket and tin hat.
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JeffHs
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 10:11 AM |
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There's hundreds of Lomaxes etc around with exposed 2CV cylinders. They're still being built in small numbers and have been through SVA
MSVA and AFAIK, IVA too.
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 10:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marcjagman
You are not legally allowed to drive a motor vehicle on the road in the UK with exposed engine or tyres. Doesn't mean you wont get away with it
but if your stopped your car will be towed.
I guess you mean cars here. Loads of motorcycles, old tractors and trikes have exposed engines.
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whitestu
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 10:50 AM |
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If you can get hold of a GS or GSA engine, they are a relatively easy swap into a 2CV. The 1300 is a cracking littlle air cooled flat four that will
make a 2CV go really well.
Stu
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smart51
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 11:24 AM |
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A friend of mine had a lomax many years ago. He said you could basically double the engine's BHP without too much trouble. That still only
gave you 50 odd though. The cylinders and heads bolt on so you can just swap the cylinders and pistons for big bore items (kits were available but
may be scarce in this century). The roller bearing cranks were supposed to be all but indestructable.
Lomaxes had some bare engine parts but were covered to an extent. I guess if you have guards that keep the sphere of doom away from the engine, you
could at least see it, even if it wasn't entirely open.
If you're keeping the original chassis without modification (and possibly some other parts I don't remember), you don't need IVA, so
you only need to pass an MOT and not offend the boys in blue. Oh, and tell your insurer.
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Strontium Dog
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 11:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
If you can get hold of a GS or GSA engine, they are a relatively easy swap into a 2CV. The 1300 is a cracking littlle air cooled flat four that will
make a 2CV go really well.
Stu
I've seen this done before. What a hoot! Do it!
A French car "occupied" by a German engine, I like this but I'm sure something like it was tried a few years ago! Lol!
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blue2cv
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 02:25 PM |
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Just for the hell of it i turbo'd one, injection and M3D management, was making around 70bhp on rollers at Emerald, was a hoot, surprised one or
two boy racers (pics on my website if anyone interested, www.sillycvs.co.uk ) Re the bigbore stuff, try STP in germany, they do all sizes of engine,
GS engines rare now, also prone to cam and follower wear, the 4 pot cars were called sidewinders by the way, cor this anoraks warm, lol
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pilchard
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| posted on 5/1/11 at 09:50 PM |
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Wowsah! thank folks-some food for thought here, I was scouring my brain for 'Lomax' so its a win.
Thanks again.
Apparently the Dyane version has a crude supercharger, wonder if its possible to make it even (c)ruder!
BTW Matt GSXR I love your avatar car-and I want one.
[Edited on 5/1/11 by pilchard]
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blue2cv
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| posted on 6/1/11 at 11:00 AM |
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Dyane and Ami had a very crude form of forced air intake, was a pipe off cooling fan housing
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