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Cozza

posted on 17/5/03 at 01:00 PM Reply With Quote
Sierra Donor

Hi,

I am probably 80% through the build of my chassis and about to source a donor car. Having read messages on the forum and various other bits and pieces, I am thinking of going for -

2.0 L Sierra for engine, gearbox, steeering column, pedals, etc

Can I use the diff from this for the Locost or do I need to buy an Escort diff and prop (with brake drums etc)?

Any advice greatfully received

Cozza

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 17/5/03 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
unless you want A LOT of work and hassle insorting out the geomety, use a cortina or escort or capri axle.

There are no definitive plans to convert a locost to irs suspension using sierra diff. I did ny own using a diff and it toook a fair while.

following the book reas suspension is as quick a route as you can take.

Also, live axle cars dont excatly handle crap in a locost.

atb

steve






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Johan F

posted on 18/5/03 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
Wich sierras are equipped with the 2l pinto engine?
Wich ones has LSD?

/ Johan

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chrisg

posted on 18/5/03 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
2 litre ones

cosworth, xr4 x4

Cheers

Chris





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 18/5/03 at 07:26 PM Reply With Quote
2 litre cars after 1989-90 had the DOHC non pinto.....

slipping up chris!

atb

steve






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Cozza

posted on 18/5/03 at 07:27 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys
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auzziejim

posted on 18/5/03 at 11:03 PM Reply With Quote
and you can even get a free 2.0 DOHC (which pushes out more bhp than a Pinto) for free.

Anybody want a 2.0 DOHC with MT75 box for free?? well iv got one now, LOL

cheers

James

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James

posted on 19/5/03 at 10:46 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
2 litre cars after 1989-90 had the DOHC non pinto.....

slipping up chris!

atb

steve


Sorry Steve:

not exclusively. The '205' Pinto came out in 1989 and was around for about 3 years. I've got one!

HTH,

James

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James

posted on 19/5/03 at 10:51 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cozza
Hi,

I am probably 80% through the build of my chassis and about to source a donor car. Having read messages on the forum and various other bits and pieces, I am thinking of going for -

2.0 L Sierra for engine, gearbox, steeering column, pedals, etc

Can I use the diff from this for the Locost or do I need to buy an Escort diff and prop (with brake drums etc)?

Any advice greatfully received

Cozza


Cozza,

If you're 80% of the way through isn't it a little late to go IRS from the Sierra?

You're gonna have to chop the prop around anyway (or get one made by someone) so it doesn't massively matter what it's from!

HTH,

James

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 19/5/03 at 11:58 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
2 litre cars after 1989-90 had the DOHC non pinto.....

slipping up chris!

atb

steve


Sorry Steve:

not exclusively. The '205' Pinto came out in 1989 and was around for about 3 years. I've got one!

HTH,

James




I kinda knew that, having seen differnet descriptions of when it changed over in the haynes manual for sierra and granda. There is also the problem of stockpiled cars extending dates

I have a relation that works at ford. The discount cars they can buy are very often 'old spec' models that are from a recent trim level change.

atb

steve






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chrisg

posted on 19/5/03 at 05:14 PM Reply With Quote
Whoo hoo I'm right !

Aren't I?

I dunno

Johan F only wants one for a westfield anyhoo, so I don't care

Cheers

Chris





Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 19/5/03 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
lets go for a tie.


a nice stripy one in pink and yellow








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Peteff

posted on 19/5/03 at 06:52 PM Reply With Quote
My block is a 205 and it's from a 1987 Sierra. Engine tallied with log book. When did they start from?.

yours, Pete.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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James

posted on 19/5/03 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
My block is a 205 and it's from a 1987 Sierra. Engine tallied with log book. When did they start from?.

yours, Pete.


I hadn't heard that before... interesting.

2nd Sierra fact for the day!

I'm a bit confused as I've read about it coming out in March '89 from several sources.

Oh well, that's Ford for you- bloody confusing!

Cheers,

James

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Johan F

posted on 19/5/03 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
Ok, for me who doesn't speak Ford.
What is special about the 205?
Which cars where they in?
Wich gearboxes are common in the sierras? Type 9? The 75?

Isn't there any good pages about Ford engines, so I don't have to bug you about it?

/ Johan

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James

posted on 20/5/03 at 10:36 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johan F
Ok, for me who doesn't speak Ford.
What is special about the 205?
Which cars where they in?
Wich gearboxes are common in the sierras? Type 9? The 75?

/ Johan


205 is injection model. Comes from '205' being cast on side of block.

Apparently block, rod and crank strength is improved over original.
Breathing of Cylinder head is better too.
See:
http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/pinto.htm for some more info.

They were in both Sierras and Granadas.

Both the Type9 and the MT75 gearboxes are in Sierras.

HTH,

James

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gjn200

posted on 21/5/03 at 06:17 PM Reply With Quote
205 did come out earlier than 1989, it was in the glsi, also arnt cossie blocks 205? Oh and fact 3 for ya, the cossie blocks where the only ones x-rayed too.





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Johan F

posted on 21/5/03 at 10:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
Both the Type9 and the MT75 gearboxes are in Sierras.
James


Ok then, but wich type is mated with the 2l Pinto?

/ Johan

PS
Isn't the cossie engines DOHC?

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James

posted on 22/5/03 at 11:08 AM Reply With Quote
Johan,

Sorry, should have said before:
Pinto/CVH- type9
DOHC (8valve)- MT75

The cossie is DOHC but it's a 16valve head on the '205' block.

gjn200,
Thanks for no 3.

HTH,

James

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timf

posted on 22/5/03 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
don't forget the 200 block

as fitted to the 4x4 cossie and suposed to be stronger than the 205 blocks !
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James

posted on 22/5/03 at 01:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by timf
as fitted to the 4x4 cossie and suposed to be stronger than the 205 blocks !


Wow! Isn't this thread getting educational!

Got any links about it as never heard of it before.

Cheers,

James

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ned

posted on 22/5/03 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
i just saw a brand new 200 block for sale on the racecar forum quite a good one for buying second hand performance/race parts.

Ned.





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