02GF74
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 02:44 PM |
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what happens after the last sierra is broken?
after the last sierra is broken, probably the last mass produced rwd car, from where will the parts be sourced for a rwd kit car?
a) steering rack & coloumn - fwd ones should be ok without too many mods
b) front hubs - as above or shouldn't be that hard to make them,
c) engine - flip through 90 degrees
d) gearbox - this could be a problem? can the diff be locked and only 1 driveshart - which beomes the prop - be used?
e) rear diff - ??? can a housing be made and a diff from a fwd car be used?
f) haflshaft - can fwd halfshafts be used?
g) brakes/hubs - should be ok to use from fwd car
... and what fwd donor would be most suitable - mondeo/escort?
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mackei23b
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 02:49 PM |
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Mazda MX5 is next on the list.
Westfield now have this as a donor option
Cheers
Ian
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balidey
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 02:49 PM |
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Don't worry about it, by the time the last Sierra is dead, the UK legislation will have banned the production of kit cars. There problem
solved.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 02:50 PM |
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Far simpler to build mid engined cars though, is it not ?
Like, for example, the Sylva Mojo.
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jambojeef
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 02:52 PM |
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Theres more than 1 way to skin that cat surely?
3 series BMW?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1988-E30-BMW-6-cylinder-320-i-Manual-transmission_W0QQitemZ110048269742QQihZ001QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1100
48269742
Even got some cool alloys too!
Geoff
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 02:55 PM |
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in response ^^^ - I doubt the maxda or any other current production rwd car is as plentiful or will be as cheap as the sierra?
but eventually even mx5 will disappear to the same quetion arises?
mid-engined, hmmmm.... don't want to go there, would rather see your ideas as how to build a rwd from a fwd.
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wyatt
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 03:17 PM |
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dont Westfield offer a freelander dif on there parts page!
www.bynxy.co.uk
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andrew.carwithen
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 03:28 PM |
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As well as Westfield, Tiger are also developing the Avon to take MX5 running gear. No doubt, other manufacturers will quickly follow suit.
As regards numbers, I'd say there are more than enough MX5's, Eunos's and Miatas out there to satisfy kit car donor demand! (after
all, they've been around for over 15 years and are still in production.)
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MikeR
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 03:38 PM |
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don't forget more bmw 3 series are sold now than mondeo's.
rwd donors are going to be in plentiful supply..... we'll just have to wait a while 
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Gergely
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 03:52 PM |
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I will sell you Sierras from Hungary!
We still have quite a few and fairly cheap as well...
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zilspeed
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 03:53 PM |
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The main problem with the 3 series is the slant 4/6 engine. May fit in a wider chassis designed for a V8 or a standard width LHD car.
Thing is though, how much of a Sierra or Cortina do you actually 'need' to use. Or put it another way, how many people build without a
complete donor car.
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russbost
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 03:59 PM |
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Vauxhall Carlton & Omega, partic Omega - lovely V6 engine with about 210Bhp in the MV6 - can't understand why you lot that build these
strange vehicles with engines at one end & drive at the other - instead of proper midengined vehicles - aren't using them already
I no longer run Furore Products or Furore Cars Ltd, but would still highly recommend them for Acewell dashes, projector headlights, dominator
headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
furoreltd & furoreproducts, discounts available for LCB users.
Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/furoreproducts/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 04:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
The main problem with the 3 series is the slant 4/6 engine. May fit in a wider chassis designed for a V8 or a standard width LHD car.
Thing is though, how much of a Sierra or Cortina do you actually 'need' to use. Or put it another way, how many people build without a
complete donor car.
Use the kraut 3 for everything except the engine, just needs a mount plate to be made up to fit the german gearbox so anything can be used?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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clutch_kick
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 05:09 PM |
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right ... and what german gearbox would be suitable for a 4A-GE? Do they weight more than a Type9?
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jon_boy
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 05:32 PM |
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Or come and buy from me as i have accumulated lots of like new sierra parts which i no longer need
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StevieB
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 07:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
The main problem with the 3 series is the slant 4/6 engine. May fit in a wider chassis designed for a V8 or a standard width LHD car.
Thing is though, how much of a Sierra or Cortina do you actually 'need' to use. Or put it another way, how many people build without a
complete donor car.
Easy solved - go BEC and you don't need to worry about the engine
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procomp
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 08:08 AM |
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Hi what with the mazda being the worlds best selling sports car i cant see there being a problem finding the parts.
When stuart taylor did the locost ont the mazda running gear some 4 years ago it didnt take off even tho you could buy the whole running gear and
parts required of the mazda for £300 and all the tunning bits for the engine readily available from the states.
Although some people would say why take a practical reliable well proven sportscar and turn it into a not so practical sportscar. But it dose make
sence to use the mazda parts.
cheers matt
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smart51
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| posted on 30/10/06 at 11:36 AM |
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All you really NEED is the diff, half shafts and RWD hubs from a donor, and mabe a propshaft to canibalise for the ends. Use front uprights and
steering from any old thing.
People still seem to find escort bits and they stopped making them long before sierras stopped. Fewer and fewer people use the donor car's
engine anyway and there are still plenty of sierras on the road.
Use freelander / MX5 / 3 series diffs or make mid engined cars using FWD powertrains as MGF or Elise.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 30/10/06 at 09:56 PM |
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The obvious answer will be a mid engined derivation of the Locost to take virtualy any of the millions FWD engine/transaxle cars available e.g. like
the Sylva Mojo.
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skint scotsman
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| posted on 31/10/06 at 08:49 AM |
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the only stimbling block i can see with the mojo esq principal is the front hubs??
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 31/10/06 at 09:11 AM |
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Front hubs same as the backs. Just cut off the excess cv/tripode joint stuff.
Been done before on production cars. Can't remember which though???
Cheers,
Syd.
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chockymonster
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| posted on 31/10/06 at 09:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
Front hubs same as the backs. Just cut off the excess cv/tripode joint stuff.
Been done before on production cars. Can't remember which though???
Cheers,
Syd.
New MGF? Used the front bits from a rover 100 if I remember correctly
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