m2000
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| posted on 10/7/06 at 05:50 PM |
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Sierra 1.6l
Hi!
I can get 1.6 Sierra cheap.
I heard that 1.6 pinto is very tunable.
Has anyone tried to build locost on this platform?
Does 5 speed box fit to this engine? I have Haynes Sierra manual - but no clear answer to this questions.
Any help appriciated.
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/7/06 at 06:43 PM |
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pretty crap really, the 2 litre is always going to be better to be honest. It usually has a 5 speed box anyway. 
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m2000
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| posted on 10/7/06 at 07:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
pretty crap really, the 2 litre is always going to be better to be honest. It usually has a 5 speed box anyway.
I was tempted by (some say so...) statements of 1.6 engine to be lighter and and prety tunable. Otherwise I can also get chep 2l Sierras... almost for
the same money...
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The Baron
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| posted on 10/7/06 at 07:59 PM |
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The Pinto engine often gets over looked as an engine of choice of the ‘locost’ style of cars. Traditionally the favourite engine is the ‘Crossflow’
which was usually sourced from the MK2 escort. These are now incredibly difficult to get hold of as a base for a kit-car, especially if you want
something bigger than 1300cc.
Lots of people will probably now jump on me and say you can get them re-bored etc, or you could use a ‘Zetec’ from a more modern ford or even the
newer ‘Duratec’ all of these statements are true however, you are now into the realms of cost, and no longer building a ‘Locost’ as Ron Champion
originally described for £250. (But that’s a different story!)
A 2000cc option is best as it had bigger valves in the head, but plenty of power will come from a 1600 with twin Webber 40DCOE’s and a mild / fast
cam. Remember these cars weigh next to nothing and you will get very respectable power to weight ratios. Yes, Pinto’s are heavy old lumps of iron,
but they are also very easy to work on, especially if you are new to working on engines, there easy to get bits for and easy to tune!
For me the biggest pain in the arse was that the Pinto is taller than the crossflow, so sticks through the bonnet, this was corrected with bonnet
bulge.
I see you are new. You have joined a very informative forum with many people with much more knowledge than I. So welcome, & what are you waiting
for, get out there and start cutting, cursing and building……………and oh yeah……..that £250 figure you’ll be spending a tad more money than that., but
part of the fun is seeing how little you can build your own sports car for. Good luck!
Cheers,
The Baron
PS. Another good book which is on a similar theme is ‘How to build your own Tiger Avon’; this uses a sierra as a base, not an Escort
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caber
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| posted on 10/7/06 at 10:18 PM |
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If only I had got a donor If it is cheap get it as it will save you loads of time and aggro of getting lots of little bits and pieces and grumpy
scrappers ripping you off for a wet afternoon trying to get that bit you need out of that scrapped sierra.
I am going the 1600 pinto route but with a capri back axle. These engines are a bit unpopular I actually got given 2 for free! I also bought a set of
webber 40s and a fast road cam and vernier pulley from ebay so I will making at least one of the engines pretty quick, the other will probably stay
standard and will probably get put in for SVA.
Once you have your sierra and get it SORNed you can also decide to change the engine and tell DVLA, when it comes to SVA and registration it will
still be considered as one donor and you may get to keep the donor registration.
The good thing about these cars is you can change your mind mid build or even after it is completed and swop engine or other drive train
components.
I am still on my first build but it seems a bit addictive so there are a few on this forum who are serial builders, once you have developed skills on
Mk1 there is always the cahnce to build Mk2!
Best of luck
Caber
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m2000
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| posted on 11/7/06 at 06:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by The Baron
A 2000cc option is best as it had bigger valves in the head, but plenty of power will come from a 1600 with twin Webber 40DCOE’s and a mild / fast
cam.
I spent some time reading ford tuning forums and in concept I pefer "screamers" - low cc, high(her) revs, light car...
On the other hand if I would choose 2000cc version I would get more power potential.
I have a pair of 45 and 40 DCOE sitting on my shelve (needing rebuild) and are good for both engines.
What botheres me is if gearbox from a 2000 cc engine fits the 1600cc engine? Since I can get two sierras chep (one 1.6, the other 2.0) for less than
200UKP for both I would go for best option (at least for me)
Thanks,
Mat
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