stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 09:48 AM |
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Dumped 'roadside donors"
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880052_en_2.htm#mdiv36
The above link i found in an earlier thread from cleveland magistrates site linked to in the 'how to beat speed cams' post.
Section 25 specifically states that its illegal to tamper with a car - and as its in the 1988 road traffic act. you can bet there may be penalty
points involved.....
atb
steve
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andyps
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 12:56 PM |
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Depending on the interpretation of the word "tamper" this means you cannot fix a car at the roadside - which is something I have heard
before. I don't know what this means relative to organisations like the AA and RAC.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 01:01 PM |
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I bet the average copper doesnt know about this part of the act.....
The AA and RAC need the owner to be with the car - perhaps cos of this?
Whats more interesting, is how does this apply to wheel clampers, and a$$holes that put leaflets under yer vindscreen vipers ?
atb
steve
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andyps
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 01:16 PM |
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I would certainly classify someone putting a wheel clamp on my car as tampering with it!
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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JoelP
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 02:07 PM |
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my old chief always use to say it counted as tampering, and that he'd sue anyone who wheel clamped his car. Hes a fairly clever bloke with
company lawyers so maybe he was right/in the know?!
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James
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 05:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880052_en_2.htm#mdiv36
The above link i found in an earlier thread from cleveland magistrates site linked to in the 'how to beat speed cams' post.
Section 25 specifically states that its illegal to tamper with a car - and as its in the 1988 road traffic act. you can bet there may be penalty
points involved.....
atb
steve
Told ya' it was illegal! That's why I'd never do such a thing...
...even if it morally justified on grounds of recycling! 
Cheers,
James
Atleast I now know it's ok for me to have the dog on the road as long as I'm using him to drive sheep or cattle! Was getting worried
there...
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James
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 05:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andyps
I would certainly classify someone putting a wheel clamp on my car as tampering with it!
I've been clamped once. Was my fault I guess, I just assumed that the car park was free parking after 6pm (it was more like 8pm at the time of
parking), so unfortunately I didn't check the signs.
Took the bastard over an hour to turn up and let us out and even with some hard bargaining still cost me £40 of the original £50 that was
*hand-written* on the sticker. If I hadn't been on one of the first dates (and being about midnight in December!) with my girlfriend I'd
have dismantled the suspension to get the car free.
The only good bit about it was he told me one of his collegues had just had his fingers chopped off with an axe when attacked by an enraged clampee!
James
[Edited on 8/9/03 by James]
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eddie
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 06:22 PM |
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If, while a motor vehicle is on a road or on a parking place provided by a local authority
i think with clampers its a case of they will be aware of that law, thats why the opertunistic f*ckers tend to stick to any scrap of ground by
shopping centres etc....
not places 'provided by a local authority'
though i do feel that disasembling the appropriate corner may well offer dividends...
Please feel free in advance to: correct, update, ridicule or laugh and point at any comments made by myself in this post....
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 10:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880052_en_2.htm#mdiv36
The above link i found in an earlier thread from cleveland magistrates site linked to in the 'how to beat speed cams' post.
Section 25 specifically states that its illegal to tamper with a car - and as its in the 1988 road traffic act. you can bet there may be penalty
points involved.....
atb
steve
Told ya' it was illegal! That's why I'd never do such a thing...
...even if it morally justified on grounds of recycling!
Cheers,
James
Atleast I now know it's ok for me to have the dog on the road as long as I'm using him to drive sheep or cattle! Was getting worried
there...
James
I distinctly remeber you crawling under a car to get a diff once.......or was that someone else
 
atb
steve
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James
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| posted on 12/9/03 at 10:18 AM |
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quote:
by Stephen_Gusterson
James
I distinctly remeber you crawling under a car to get a diff once.......or was that someone else
atb
steve
Must have me mistaken for someone else! I'd never do such a thing! 
Cheers,
James
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/10/03 at 05:14 PM |
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if you get to them before the police do... i.e. them sticking their stickers all over it !
You can tow the car home, then notify the owners that you have their car.... if they want it back they can have it... otherwise organise with them for
them to give you the V5 doc... and it's yours !
Works cos my dad's done it !
Ben
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/10/03 at 05:17 PM |
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otherwise go back in the middle of the night... be careful and get stripping
Ben
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James
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| posted on 8/10/03 at 04:32 PM |
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The challenge of course being to find the owner!
James
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 8/10/03 at 04:36 PM |
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Easy, ask DVLA Usually by mail i think
oh and make sure you notify the police that you have "rescued" the car, and will be contacting the owner
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philgregson
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| posted on 9/10/03 at 09:04 AM |
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The police are generally rather pleased for someone to take an abandoned car away as long as you let them know you are doing it.
I believe, although have never done it myself, that if a car is abandoned on the public road (parked outside their house whilst they spend 2 months
abroad for insyance) - I can't remember what constitutes abandoned but I don't think it has to remain stood for very long - you can write
to DVLA saying you wish to claim it. DVLA write to the registered keeper and if they don't recieve a reply within 28 (or possibly even 14 days)
the car is yours. This might or might not be true - anyone confirm?
There are stories - possibly apocryphal - of persons claiming quite decent cars in this way and selling them back to the owners.
Any views or personal experience would be interesting.
Phil
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Noodle
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| posted on 9/10/03 at 09:21 AM |
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Just asked a policewoman friend.
She says:
"If it's on a public highway, it's the council's responsibility. They will impound the vehicle and try to recover costs from
the registered keeper. After this, if no keeper's found, it's off to the crusher.
If it's on private property, the Police will attempt to contact the registered keeper using the DVLA 28 day rule outlined by Phil Gregson. After
this it's impounded and then... dunno.
If the vehicle is causing obstruction to you, you are at liberty to move it as long as no damage results."
A friend of mine had his driveway blocked by a bloke in a Rover 75. Rather quick to anger this chap, so he got an old 205 that he keeps elsewhere,
attached a long rope to the tow hitch and the other end to the 75. He then drove off at speed. The Rover was wrenched across the driveway at an
obscure angle. The owner was returning and witnessed the event, and started to remonstrate with him. Bad move. He quickly saw the error of his ways
and departed.
Neil.
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ned
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| posted on 9/10/03 at 10:03 AM |
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I used the 28 type rule when i bought a car with no v5, filled in the form and posted to dvla, saying i'd bought it with no v5 and my v5 arrived
within a week of posting the letter! i was very suprised and impressed to say the least. made me wonder whether any check had indeed been carried out
though...
Ned.
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JoelP
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| posted on 9/10/03 at 12:22 PM |
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ive been on the other end of that, they send you a form asking you to confirm that you sold the vehicle. maybe if he wrote to the DVLA himself it
speeded things up?
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