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Author: Subject: MNR and Their Infeasibly Large Roll-Bars
loggyboy

posted on 9/8/13 at 01:16 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by PhillipM
I'll take a roll cage that transmits forces away from me over one that folds at the joints like a hinge any day of the week. Even if part of it bends or kinks from an impact, if the rest is properly triangulated everywhere it will still prevent the cage folding and transmit force away from the damaged area.



The most important parts to the tringulated are the rear bar and the rear stays. Which are both MSA standards anyway, nothing else really can be triangulated anyway, not without obscuring vision or impeding entry/exit.





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PhillipM

posted on 9/8/13 at 01:20 PM Reply With Quote
Perhaps, but the bends in your roof bars mean the front windscreen can fold down flat if it's hit longitudinally.
Also means if it has a gentle roll the leverage from the top bars will probably tweak the chassis into a banana shape.

Both of which I've seen happen with similar designs.




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40inches

posted on 9/8/13 at 02:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by scootz
Oops... missed the part about the cage being made for a 6'8" driver. My bad!

That said, the general sentiment regarding the 'normal' height of an MNR's roll-over protection still stands... they're feckin huge and often spoil the looks of their cars!


Even at 6'8" his head should rest on the err! head rest. The height of that cage would indicate that the top of the head rest would be about shoulder height, and the harness slots half way down his back! I think?






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scootz

posted on 9/8/13 at 03:14 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by scootz
Oops... missed the part about the cage being made for a 6'8" driver. My bad!

That said, the general sentiment regarding the 'normal' height of an MNR's roll-over protection still stands... they're feckin huge and often spoil the looks of their cars!


Even at 6'8" his head should rest on the err! head rest. The height of that cage would indicate that the top of the head rest would be about shoulder height, and the harness slots half way down his back! I think?



Yeah, I was wondering about that too.





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iank

posted on 9/8/13 at 03:33 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 40inches
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Originally posted by scootz
Oops... missed the part about the cage being made for a 6'8" driver. My bad!

That said, the general sentiment regarding the 'normal' height of an MNR's roll-over protection still stands... they're feckin huge and often spoil the looks of their cars!


Even at 6'8" his head should rest on the err! head rest. The height of that cage would indicate that the top of the head rest would be about shoulder height, and the harness slots half way down his back! I think?


Says the seller isn't 6'8" (that was the original owner) so maybe he changed the seats? Should have changed the cage at the same time.





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loggyboy

posted on 9/8/13 at 03:33 PM Reply With Quote
Previous owner must have been a foreign religious bloke:







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PhillipM

posted on 9/8/13 at 03:35 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe he had really big hair.
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cjwood23

posted on 9/8/13 at 03:47 PM Reply With Quote
I think that was BigLee's car wasn't it?





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kimbo1982

posted on 9/8/13 at 05:03 PM Reply With Quote
There not all infeasibly large! I have had comments that mine is to low, but I have 4" clearance above my head and the front cross bar does not obscure my view, its perfect for me as it was made to measure. For the record I'm 5'11".

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chaddy44

posted on 9/8/13 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
here's the cage i've built on my raw striker track car :-)

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loggyboy

posted on 9/8/13 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
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I think that was BigLee's car wasn't it?


Certainly is, checking out his archive, no pics of him in it though.





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scootz

posted on 9/8/13 at 07:35 PM Reply With Quote
No doubting it's a pretty car... despite the climbing frame perched on top!





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BigLee

posted on 9/8/13 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
That car was indeed built by me! And yes I am 6' 8" The cage was chosen to actually reduce the height of the rear rollover, as without it, the rear rollover would've been roughly 4 inches higher to clear my head (in helmet) and meet the front edge of the engine. The heights were all set by MNR to be safe as people have previously said.
However, I am totally in agreement with Scootz that the MNR cages do look huge, and in the case of my car, utterly massive. I hated it. But there isn't much option for someone this tall. Same as the seats. The head rest barely met the bottom of my neck, and the harness was as long as possible to go up and over my shoulders, but these are just sacrifices you make when you have to duck under most door frames. It was either that, or I just didn't build it. Tom who bought the car from me was my opposite as far as build goes. Lovely bloke and I know he's looked after it.


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Wheels244

posted on 9/8/13 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
Not having a large roll over hoop was one of the reasons I went for a full cage - more safety being the primary reason.

I think mine is much more in proportion to the car - but I'm not 6' 8"

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sdh2903

posted on 9/8/13 at 09:47 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Wheels244
Not having a large roll over hoop was one of the reasons I went for a full cage - more safety being the primary reason.

I think mine is much more in proportion to the car - but I'm not 6' 8"

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That looks spot on, much more proportionate.

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scootz

posted on 10/8/13 at 11:55 AM Reply With Quote
Yup... that looks a lot better!





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