joolsmi16
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 08:38 PM |
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ZX9r e still not turning
Hi all, engine still will not turn over from the switch..
I've tested the relay, starter motor, starter switch, starter circuit in fuse box, ignition switch all the diodes but still not turning.
Any ideas to whats wrong!!!!
Jools
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 08:40 PM |
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Sidestand or clutch safety switches?
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svenkev
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 08:40 PM |
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maybe the sidestand switch..?
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 08:46 PM |
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Have you got the 100 OHMS resistor in there?
If the engine's in the chassis then try putting a jump lead between the engine and this to earth it.
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joolsmi16
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:02 PM |
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zx9r
I have not got a resistor in the loom as its a standard item as taken from the bike.. Where does this resistor go????
I can turn the engine over by putting power from the battery directly to the starter relay.
Jools
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mr henderson
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by joolsmi16
I have not got a resistor in the loom as its a standard item as taken from the bike.. Where does this resistor go????
I can turn the engine over by putting power from the battery directly to the starter relay.
Jools
In that case there is something in the wiring that doesn't want you to turn over the engine. As the other guys have said, it's probably
the sidestand or the clutch switch, or maybe the neutral switch. Have a good look at the wiring diagram and compare it with what you've got.
John
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joolsmi16
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:18 PM |
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zx9r
The engine is in neutral and the clocks is showing that it is. I've tried the side stand in both positions.
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mr henderson
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by joolsmi16
The engine is in neutral and the clocks is showing that it is. I've tried the side stand in both positions.
I'm not familiar with your engine's cicuitry. Do you have a wiring diagram for it?
The clutch switch shouldn't be an issue with the engine in neutral (I believe). So, it sounds like there is a fault. If so, then no-one here is
going to be able to tell you what to do. You need to get in there with a meter and the wiring diagram.
John
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mr henderson
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:29 PM |
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Just a thought, does it have a 'vehicle down' sensor? If so, is it in the correct position, or has it been correctly bypassed?
John
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rb968
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:43 PM |
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My understanding is there is normally a 100 ohm resistor in the ignition switch wiring on the bike. Assuming like me you aren't using the
original switch but are on the sierra barrel or other you will need 100 ohm resistor. On my ZX9r B engine is was between the white feed from the
ignition to the alternator and the grey wire to the Ignitor or ECU. Now I can't be 100% on how it needs to be on your new switch as I am in the
process of wiring it in myself. Previously had it running with resistor simply looped between white and grey on the ignition connector.
Hope that helps! Not shown on the wiring diagram btw.
Rich
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mr henderson
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rb968
My understanding is there is normally a 100 ohm resistor in the ignition switch wiring on the bike. Assuming like me you aren't using the
original switch but are on the sierra barrel or other you will need 100 ohm resistor. On my ZX9r B engine is was between the white feed from the
ignition to the alternator and the grey wire to the Ignitor or ECU. Now I can't be 100% on how it needs to be on your new switch as I am in the
process of wiring it in myself. Previously had it running with resistor simply looped between white and grey on the ignition connector.
Hope that helps! Not shown on the wiring diagram btw.
Rich
Yes, indeed, I remember that from a ZX12, it went to a pin on the ECU. I'm not sufficiently familiar with bikes to know whether or not a ZX9r
has an ecu or not.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 25/3/09 at 09:47 PM |
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It's the lack of a resistor then. The standard starter button, which I presume you're not using just the loom, need to be simulated with a
resistance of 100 Ohms. It should go between the white and grey wires on the ignition.
If you get stuck there's loads of it on a search.
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MK9R
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| posted on 26/3/09 at 07:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rb968
My understanding is there is normally a 100 ohm resistor in the ignition switch wiring on the bike. Assuming like me you aren't using the
original switch but are on the sierra barrel or other you will need 100 ohm resistor. On my ZX9r B engine is was between the white feed from the
ignition to the alternator and the grey wire to the Ignitor or ECU. Now I can't be 100% on how it needs to be on your new switch as I am in the
process of wiring it in myself. Previously had it running with resistor simply looped between white and grey on the ignition connector.
Hope that helps! Not shown on the wiring diagram btw.
Rich
Thats bang on, i'll dig out my wirung diagram for you, hold on.......
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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MK9R
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| posted on 26/3/09 at 07:33 AM |
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Can't find the diagram at the moment, but have a quick look at my old website hints page and december 2002:
ftp://ftp.jpc.co.za/index.html
[Edited on 26/3/09 by MK9R]
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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rb968
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| posted on 26/3/09 at 10:54 AM |
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This is the wiring diagram for the ZX9r B engine. You can see the Ignition connector and the white wire. The grey wire runs from the ignition
connector to the IC ignitor. Thats the wire that needs the resistor to provide the 100ohms to the IC I believe. Hopefully that is some help. I have
the manual in the garage will look and see if I have the later models wiring diagram if you need it.
 
ZXRB UK wiring
Rich
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