Benzine
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 09:29 AM |
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Donor Options
Hi this is my first post here  I'm looking at building my first kit car which would be an MK Indy so i need sierra parts. I was reading the
Which Kit guide to kit car building and it says there are various ways to get the sierra parts i need. These include getting a sierra and stripping it
and other options included buying reconditioned parts. I was wondering:what are the options/if buying the individual parts is worth it. I ask because
i could get a sierra and strip it but if getting the parts is a valid option then it would save me a lot of space.
Also is it possible to buy a sierra and take it to a car breakers and ask for the parts i need to be taken off? I have no experience with this which
is why i ask
Thanks for any help
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nick205
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 09:40 AM |
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Hi Benzine,
I'm building an Indy and I bought a Sierra and stripped it myself. IMO this is the cheapest and best option as you get to know the car while
you strip it and you can make sure you get everything you need. If you buy the components or pay someone to strip it for you, you may not get some of
the little bits that make the build quicker and easier.
Have a look at my website www.winchester7.com for some pics of my donor car being stripped.
If you have or can borrow some space you can strip the Sierra bare in a couple of days.
HTH
Good luck and get building!
Cheers
Nick
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200mph
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 09:46 AM |
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yup, I agree.
its all about learning, and if you know how the parts come off, you'll know how they go back on the build car.
Plus, cutting a large car into lots of small pieces is a rewarding process
Mark
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spunky
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 09:51 AM |
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welcome,
although I have no experience of building a car from scratch I do have extensive knowledge of breakers, sure they will take the parts you require off
for you but they will charge for the service. A good breakers will have many of the parts already removed and in stock, engine, transmission, diff
etc. with the added bonus of a limited guarantee.
IMHO the purchase of a complete car is the best option as you can salvage as much as you like for the outlay, relays fuse box, brake lines the stuff
that scrappies dont have in stock but still charge you for them.
Incidently, the cost of steel has risen nearly 40% in the last 12 months
(something to do with China buying up the worlds stocks of scrap...!) As a result it is now easy to get rid of scrapped cars from your drive. they
will collect and sometimes even pay for it, bonus . We drove a Granada into the local breakers a couple of weeks ago and were given £60 for it.
Wouldn't have got that at auction, and had T&T.
John
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James
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 10:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by spunky
Incidently, the cost of steel has risen nearly 40% in the last 12 months
(something to do with China buying up the worlds stocks of scrap...!) As a result it is now easy to get rid of scrapped cars from your drive. they
will collect and sometimes even pay for it, bonus. We drove a Granada into the local breakers a couple of weeks ago and were given £60 for it.
Wouldn't have got that at auction, and had T&T.
John
I heard this from a retained Firefighter recently too. He said it's great as it means not so many tossers are torching their old cars as
they'll get cash for them.
What isn't so great about it is that people are apparently nicking manhole covers for the value of the scrap steal! 
Benzine,
Welcome to the nuthouse.
Gotta agree with the others- get a car and strip it. With a mate, an engine crane and an angle grinder you could do it in a weekend if your worked
hard. Ned managed to do his in a weekend.
HTH,
James
P.S. Further advice- discipline yourself to label the loom 100%. I labelled some stuff thinking the rest would be easy- 18months later a lot of bits
have become rather confusing!
[Edited on 20/4/04 by James]
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spunky
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 10:12 AM |
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James.
Two question spring to mind here....
What are our little asian friends up to?
more worrying, what sort of scrap dealer is actually paying for manhole covers. Where do they think these kids are getting them!
" Didn't nick it mate, honest, just found it lying in the road" 
John
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 11:09 AM |
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It would also help if you posted your location so you can get to know you local builders to give you support if required.
The web is great for this but sometime the problems can be sorted immediatly over the phone for the job to continue.
The local Knowledge is also a great help if you require ali steel or other sorts of services/ suppliers.
Good luck in your build.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 11:40 AM |
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i heard scrap prices go up when there is a war coming,heard about the man hole covers as well
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Hellfire
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 11:41 AM |
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If you buy the Sierra you will also get the V5. This means you may get an age related registration plate at the end of it rather than a Q plate. Not
that there's anything at all wrong with a Q plate. It's your choice
Also, if you buy the right car, you can strip it, flog whats left of it and even return a nice little profit
[Edited on 20-4-04 by Hellfire]
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steve m
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 12:22 PM |
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sod the donor car problem
I want to know what the gooks are doing with all the metal, sounds sinister!!
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greggors84
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 01:32 PM |
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Bought mine for £60, really good condition K reg sierra with a blown engine, but as i had an engine already it was ideal. Made about £100 profit on it
selling bits on ebay and the like, and still have loads of stuff left. I have had the car in the back garden for about 6 months now, its really going
to have to go soon!
Not bad for practising angle grinding too! 
p.s. my garden isnt it a mess all the time!
 
Rescued attachment donor.JPG
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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Benzine
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 03:10 PM |
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Thanks for all the replies! didn't expect so many so fast
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
It would also help if you posted your location so you can get to know you local builders to give you support if required.
I live near Grantham, Lincs. MK is just up the A1 from me. I went to the MK workshop about a week ago with a friend to see what it was like, very
helpful & friendly and very impressive. Took loads of pictures of a near-complete car too
Regarding the car breakers theres 2 practically on my doorstep. A couple for questions:
- How much would it roughly cost to buy the parts from a breakers?
- How easy/hard is it to strip a sierra myself?
[Edited on 20/4/04 by Benzine]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 03:22 PM |
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I reckon you could get most of the parts from the breakers for a few hundred quid.
Or as mentioned before you could buy a car for less than that and strip it. If you know how a spanner works you can do it, its easy. If you're
intimidated by the car engine, leave it where it is and stick a bike one in it. Its just like a mechano set for grown ups!
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Benzine
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 03:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I reckon you could get most of the parts from the breakers for a few hundred quid.
Or as mentioned before you could buy a car for less than that and strip it. If you know how a spanner works you can do it, its easy. If you're
intimidated by the car engine, leave it where it is and stick a bike one in it. Its just like a mechano set for grown ups!
Yeah a bike engine is an option
I don't really have much experience but i consider myself mechanically minded I have loads of patience and i love building/destroying things
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Hellfire
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 03:36 PM |
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This is right up your street then!!
You have U2U
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Benzine
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 04:25 PM |
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Thanks Phil
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JoelP
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 09:05 PM |
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yeah, you wouldnt believe how easy it is to take a car to little pieces. not so fun to put back together again, but a set of spanners, sockets, hammer
and grinder will see you well! plus as said, you know where it came from then.
and i cant stress enough, label the loom well, memories dont last a year in detail, and biro washes off masking tape much sooner!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 20/4/04 at 09:31 PM |
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ive said it before, but my site has a bit on taking the car to bits.
and the loom takes the longest time...... label everything!
atb
steve
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