Trev Borg
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| posted on 11/11/04 at 11:32 PM |
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Its a little bit bigger than a bike engine, but it fits
Just got the engine out of the donor, and offered her up to the chassis.
She looks as tho she may well fit !
just need to adapt a type 9 to fit and away we go.
complete car = £150
BHP in standard form = 200
number of cylinders = 6
clearence between chassis rails and engine = just
 
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 11/11/04 at 11:35 PM |
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Oh the donor ?
alfa 164 3.0 V6 12v
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 11/11/04 at 11:45 PM |
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One of the true classic engines, beautiful
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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sebastiaan
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| posted on 12/11/04 at 07:51 AM |
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Trev,
Have you investigated using an alfa 6 gearbox? these fit directly behind the engine (not a transaxle job), and were designed for this engine. Might be
a bit more expensive than a type 9, tho....
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adamhay
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| posted on 12/11/04 at 06:38 PM |
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How easy will it be to source suitable ratios for the Alfa 6 box?????
A type 9 has a huge choice of readily available ratios. However, you'll probably need a heavy duty gear set for the torque this engine will put
out.......something like a Quaife Pro H/D box or maybe a Caterham 6 speed box? Neither will be cheap though - c.£700 for a used Quaife pro box and
about £1200 for a used Caterham 6 speed box.
I'm sure there are other cheaper options - a T5 maybe....but make sure you get decent ratios - it would be a shame to not get the most from the
engine.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnp0WDDW7xs
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 12/11/04 at 08:02 PM |
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been trying to find a alfa 6 box but no joy so far !
the type 9 was a thought as it should be easy to get hold of / replace when i break.
If anyone has any good ideas they are more than welcome.
I still trying to build the car on a budget so dont to blow wadds of cash on a box.
the link below show a guy from holland who has fitted one in a Dax
dutch bloke
Do you all think I should try to fit it, or go for something smaller.
Its not too heavy !!!!! i think about 165kg. Alloy block and heads.
Its very pretty, and a bit different
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/11/04 at 08:06 PM |
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My only real concern would be height - are you going to need a bonnet bulge? A very big bulge? 
David
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andyps
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| posted on 12/11/04 at 08:21 PM |
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The Alfa 6 must be like rocking horse s**t these days. There were hardly any sold in the UK at all, and probably only a small percentage of those
left.
Last one I saw was looking very sorry for itself outside a garage in Sheffield, but that was a couple of years ago.
Andy
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ZEN
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| posted on 13/11/04 at 08:00 PM |
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@Trev Borg
What is that body work on your car?
My YouTube channel Cars, bikes - track days, motorsport, sim racing and more.
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 13/11/04 at 10:57 PM |
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The car is an autotune Gemini.
A copy of a 1955 Falcon bodied Elva
 
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 13/11/04 at 11:10 PM |
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I don't think the height of the engine is going to be too much of a problem.
The engine is going to sit half an inch lower, the body is just resting on he chassis and will sit an inch higher.
In the Alfa the plenum sits on the higher head due to the slope of the bonnet, but it may be possible to re-site it to the lower head, so making the
engine shorter.
If all else fails and i end up with a small bit sticking out, I already have a matching gelcoat bonnet bulge.
I must agree about the alfa 6, not a snowball in hells chance of finding one in the UK.
I'll have to bodge a type 9 on 
 
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 13/11/04 at 11:12 PM |
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Does anyone think that image is a bit big ?
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Peteff
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| posted on 14/11/04 at 12:37 AM |
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1600x1200 pixels
Same as all your others. In answer to your question ,yes it is a bit big.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Peteff
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| posted on 14/11/04 at 12:42 AM |
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This is plenty big enough
600x450. Saves space and loading time and you can see what's in the picture without scrolling across 3 screens on a 17" monitor. How do you
get the steering column past it?
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yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 14/11/04 at 11:26 PM |
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past the engine or the huge picture ?
The steering is clear of the engine.
Because its a 'V' it aint that wide low down. Runs a little close to the filter, but I'm sure I could find a smaller one
By the way, My friend 'Welly' is in the process of making a bellhousing for the alfa to mate a type 9, but we need a ford clutch plate
thats 230mm. Any Ideas which would do ?
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