ned
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 12:01 PM |
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this sierra any good?
I've found a g reg sierra 2ltr glsi. I'm unsure of whether it is an efi pinto or a dohc engine. Could anyone advise for this age of car?
(G plate) would it have a type 9 or mt75?
I've consulted the sierra online site, but it doesn't give too much detail.
I've not had a chance to look at the car yet (little way away but very cheap) but wanted to know if it'll be any good. The engine
isn't too important as I have my vauxhall 16v, but the gearbox needs to be a type 9.
can anyone tell me what year the emission laws changed as I want to make sure I can get the most leanient emissions with the donor too.
Andrew.
[Edited on 23/6/03 by ned]
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timf
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 12:43 PM |
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emissions
is based in the age of the engine not the donor car btw i think its 1995
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auzziejim
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 12:48 PM |
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bad news ned, my second donor car was a 2.0 GLSi and it had a DOHC mated to an MT75 box
Cheers
James
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 12:57 PM |
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from my own search for a donor - I found that there are a few g registered cars that have a pinto but you'll have to look very hard to find
one.
If it is one of the few then a type 9 should be fitted.
Only way to be sure is to look under the bonnet i'm afraid!
HTH
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ned
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 01:40 PM |
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I've also found a 1987 1.8gl, am I right in thinking that this is a CVH engine? will this more likely have a type 9?
thanks for your help....
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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kingr
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 01:59 PM |
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You can check the gearbox type by how reverse is engaged, sadly though, I can't remember which way is which type, but I'm sure someone
else can.
Kingr
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andyps
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 02:28 PM |
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Whilst this is being discussed, I have a couple of questions.
1) Will the type 9 box fit a twin cam engine?
2) What is the problem with the MT75 box?
Hope you can help someone who is still trying to sort out what is best to buy as a donor.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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auzziejim
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 03:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kingr
You can check the gearbox type by how reverse is engaged, sadly though, I can't remember which way is which type, but I'm sure someone
else can.
Kingr
Type nine is put into reverse by pushing down and pushing the gearstick far left and up
MT75 you lift up the collar under the knob and pull right and down
Cheers
James
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ned
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 03:09 PM |
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andy,
the problem with the mt75 is that it is wider than a type 9 and I don't think fits in a standard book tranny tunnel (might be wrong).
It also has an integral bellhousing; i'm using a vauxhall which i want to mate to a type 9 so need an adapter bellhousing, hence integral type
is no good.
The 1.8 I mentioned earlier looks like it could be a cvh or pinto but should have a type 9! hoorah!
Ned.
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kingr
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 03:30 PM |
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Other problems are that they're more difficult if not impossible to service, and they're prone to being quite noisy. They are however,
considerably lighter than a type 9 and debateably stronger.
Kingr
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 03:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ned
I've also found a 1987 1.8gl, am I right in thinking that this is a CVH engine? will this more likely have a type 9?
thanks for your help....
Ned.
Most likely to be a CVH. see link HTH
http://www.crustworld.co.uk/sierra/techspec/index.html
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ned
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 04:05 PM |
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had seen that site, looking under 87 line-up and gl it says pinto, but cvh came in 87/88 i think.....
Ned.
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 04:18 PM |
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If you read it carefully it says that the 1.8 CVH was introduced in 1986
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Stu16v
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 06:48 PM |
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Err Ned, to quote yourself...."Do a f**king search!!!"
Most, if not all of your questions have been answered in-depth numourous times before.......  
Dont just build it.....make it!
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MK7
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 08:18 PM |
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Ned,
I bought a 1.8 Pinto engined sierra with a type 9 gearbox. I'm building an MK indy so it can take the MT 75. I might be interested in a straight
swap, my type 9 for your MT75 if you get it. I believe the MT75 allows me to move the gear lever further back which is something I want to do.
BTW, I drove the Sierra before buying it and everything works well. I'll be fitting this gearbox if I don't get a swap in the next couple
of weeks.
Russell
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 08:28 PM |
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there are simple mods to move a type 9 lever back too....
atb
steve
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MK7
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| posted on 24/6/03 at 12:24 PM |
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Simple is a relative thing and I haven't got any relatives with a lathe or welder :-)
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ned
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| posted on 24/6/03 at 12:36 PM |
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The 2glsi one has gone, though I'm hoping the 1.8 will be picked up next week. MK7, I'll bear you in mind if it is an mt75, though
you're a long way away!
Stu16v, I've done several searches but found little on the engine/gearbox/which year question. I did also apologise for my little outburst a
couple of weeks back.
thanks,
Ned.
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ned
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| posted on 24/6/03 at 12:47 PM |
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Highlights of sierra (4 cylinder petrol) engines from the crustworld.co.uk sierra online guide
quote:
PINTO Engine : Initially available in 1.3, 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 capacities, the Pinto was gradually phased out. Unable to meet the strict new
emissions guidlines coming into force over the 1990's, Ford decided the humble Pinto had had enough and replaced it. The 1.3 went first - it
wasn't really suited to a car the Sierra's size - followed by the 1.8 in 1986 (replaced with a CVH unit); then the 2.0 with a new engine
altogether in 1989 (the 2.0 8-valve DOHC). The 1.6 finally disappeared at the end of 1991 with the introduction of the 1.6 CFi CVH, though it has been
known to find the occasional 1.6 Pinto in cars as late as the '93-model year
quote:
CVH Engine : Seen in the Sierra and Sierra Sapphire in 1.6 (late-1991 onwards) and 1.8 (1987 onwards) capacities.
quote:
DOHC Engine : Saw service in Sierra and Sierra Sapphire 2.0 models from 1989 onwards as a replacement for the Pinto. Initially available in
both carburettored and injection format, the DOHC is often overlooked by tuners - yet it is a capable engine.
Cosworth (YB) engines are based on a stronger pinto block (200/205 block) with a 16v cosworth designed head.
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Mix
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| posted on 24/6/03 at 05:15 PM |
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Yep, you're wrong, the MT75 fits the book chassis like a glove. It's also lighter and it's relatively easy to extend the change
mechanism to avoid the lever contacting the dash.
Mick
Touche Stu
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