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johnston - 1/5/05 at 03:21 PM

Any one turned a 2l scooby and 4wd box into a middy or seen any done

been offered engine and box for nowt was gonna dump into a semi space framed mk2 fiesta xr2 kit nice standered lookin just for pleasure o confusing the maxy poof nova boys round here

any comments???????


phelpsa - 1/5/05 at 03:57 PM

Was one of my planned projects for when ive finished. If you want any measurements (rough) just ask cause we've got a scooby.

Adam


ERP - 1/5/05 at 04:45 PM

I was thinking about this, but I'm not sure I understand all the implications of converting a 4wd box for a 2wd application.

Isn't there a central diff in the 4wd box?
Wouldn't it have to be welded into a locked state once the rear ouput shaft was disconnected? Or am I just completly misunderstanding how this works?


johnston - 1/5/05 at 04:52 PM

yea idea is to weld center diff or sum 1 came up wit idea o runnin a chain drive off the tail piece to a prop shaft and an upside down diff at front

measure ments arent prob engine and box are on floor and suspension will need to b made to fit fiesta shell wouls want it lookin fairly normal from outside


phelpsa - 1/5/05 at 05:12 PM

Or you could get a gearbox off a 2wd scoob! Then use an LSD out of a 4wd scoob STi.

Adam


johnston - 1/5/05 at 06:00 PM

2wd boxes arent as beefy inside and the one i can get has the hi low ratio's i used to drive car it all came out of and another plus is the 4wd one is free

by the way this is just to go 1 better than my mate who's puttin a red top vx in to a nova


clbarclay - 1/5/05 at 06:42 PM

Why not make the fiesta 4wd, i've herd of a mk3 fiesta on 4wd cosworth running gear.


johnston - 1/5/05 at 06:47 PM

engine bay aint long enough to get engine in front o front axle line and would maybe fit but changin the plugs would b a bugger


JonBowden - 1/5/05 at 07:09 PM

Audi gearbox ?


johnston - 1/5/05 at 07:11 PM

still got to buy 1 and then get plate made budgets gonna be tight enough car was just supposed to get a 16cvh in it till she decided she liked my honda better

ps scooby 4wd box isnt that much longer than the 2wd dont think it will be sitting out through the rear valence or anything

so wot you all reckon shall i do it for a bit o craic??????

[Edited on 1/5/05 by johnston]


Scubastu - 1/5/05 at 08:17 PM

Yeah, gotta be done...just to see if it can!

...Or you could donate the engine/gearbox my way!


ERP - 1/5/05 at 10:56 PM

GO for it, I for one am interested in what you need to do to make it work and how well it works when it's done.

Low mileage 4wd subaru driveline with engine is relatively easy and cheap to get in the States as a JDM import, which makes the proposition interesting.


locost_bryan - 2/5/05 at 01:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by johnston
Any one turned a 2l scooby and 4wd box into a middy or seen any done


The Saker RSC does exactly that - with the WRX H4 or Outback H6

[Edited on 2-5-05 by locost_bryan]


johnston - 2/5/05 at 06:32 PM

well looks like i'm gonna have to clear some room and steal soory relocate some cuttin discs from work


cheers


turbo time - 2/5/05 at 07:32 PM

I'm not 100% sure about the way it's performed on the Subaru box, but on a Mitsubishi 4G63 AWD transmission, when converting it to FWD only, the following is done:

You weld the output shaft side of the center diff (shaft towards the transfer case) to the center diff and remove the transfer case output shaft. Remove the insides of the center diff and the shaft towards the passenger fender. Remove the viscous coupling, then plug the transfer case shaft hole with a freeze plug and JB weld (or weld in an aluminum plug).


johnston - 11/5/05 at 06:46 PM

right any1 know wot way the mot boys see it if i removed two front chassis legs and tubed it????

it has to be street legal so dont wanna do it then find out its not