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Why scrappage was wrong
zilspeed - 14/3/11 at 06:38 PM

If this is a repost, whatever.

Scrappage was wrong.

http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/showthread.php/12139-Scrapp age-Scheme-Grave-Yard-March-2011


PSpirine - 14/3/11 at 06:49 PM

It's just sad.

What next? Scrap your 14th century cottage for a new eco-home?


whitestu - 14/3/11 at 06:54 PM

That's just so wrong!


Danozeman - 14/3/11 at 07:00 PM

Most of them are newer than what i run everyday.

Is this in the middle not a kit? Cant remember the make.



tomgregory2000 - 14/3/11 at 07:01 PM

the one on the left looks like a series 3, what a shame
landrovers should never be scrapped


Strontium Dog - 14/3/11 at 07:05 PM

I have been trying to explain how wrong this is since it began It is more environmentally friendly to run my 16 year old Toyota than to have a new car made just to get lower emissions that will never make up for the manufacturing processes employed.

It also breaks my heart to see the lovely classics that are to be destroyed and lost forever, but that's just another story by itself!


mookaloid - 14/3/11 at 07:12 PM

These should never ever have been scrapped

I wish there was a way of rescuing them - I mean I can't believe the split screen minor was worth less than £2k



Liam - 14/3/11 at 07:13 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Save that Suzuki Cappuccino!! I think I'm going to start a campaign. Or just go and rescue it.


splitrivet - 14/3/11 at 07:23 PM

At the time I was working at a couple of vehicle breakers saw 2 pristine Moggy thous a beetle and 3 original mini's going straight into the crusher, heartbreaking.
I bet Kia were laughing their bo££ocks off at our government.
Its the same as housing, round here they tore down streets and streets of well built terraced houses and put up timber framed rabbit hutches before the money ran out and now its just waste land. How many plasterers, sparkies etc are on the jam roll now ?
Cheers,
Bob


deezee - 14/3/11 at 07:26 PM

Most environmental schemes are insulting. Everyone must know that recycling beats replacing. I build furnaces for a living and know all to well the energy costs in melting aluminium to make engines. Its not a drop in the ocean on the energy required to make a wind turbine. You will never recoup the energy making one of those bad boys.


Andybarbet - 14/3/11 at 07:29 PM

TRAGIC !!

Plus, they are mostly newer cars than our every day SAAB too, if i was informed right when they started all of this scrapage nonsense, none of these are ever allowed back on the road full stop ???


SeaBass - 14/3/11 at 07:35 PM

That was on 28dl too. I believe those are the confiscated cars due to tax / crime etc not scrappage cars.

JC


Benzine - 14/3/11 at 07:41 PM

o hai



balidey - 14/3/11 at 07:44 PM

As above, I doubt they are all scrapage scheme cars.
But the scheme was still wrong and very flawed.
I had a car that could qualify at the time. People said 'your car is worth less than a grand but you can get 2 grand for it.'
These stupid, blinkered sheep didn't realise that to get £2,000 for it I had to SPEND another £6,000 to get a newer, less desirable (ie crap) car that was no more economical or less poluting than what I was running. So WHY would most people fall for the stupid BS being pushed on us by the government?

Here, I will give you £2,000 for FREE*


*not free, you will have to pay.


But as ever there is usually a silver lining...

Imagine all these airfields full of everyday cars. All now off the road for ever. All have to be scrapped. We all know the most environmentally friendly way of disposing of these cars is to recycle. So perhaps the government could set up their own Ebay type auction to sell off car parts. This would have many benefits. It would keep OUR cars on the road. The money generated would go back into public coffers, so our taxes would reduce. It would set up a competitive alternative to Ebay, which would bring them down a peg or two. Maybe even get them to reduce their fees. And it would keep the scrap from being just scrapped.

Good idea or what?


JoelP - 14/3/11 at 08:19 PM

theres some serious money to be made stripping parts off those on the sly. Even if you just collected alloy wheels


Doctor Derek Doctors - 14/3/11 at 08:40 PM

Mandlson, Brown, Balls and Millibands should have their faces smashed through the windscreen of every single one of those cars.
Seeing that line of Land Rovers and Jags is just terrible.


zilspeed - 14/3/11 at 08:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
That was on 28dl too. I believe those are the confiscated cars due to tax / crime etc not scrappage cars.

JC


Well at least that's good news.


Andybarbet - 14/3/11 at 08:57 PM

'balidey'

Spot on post


SJL - 14/3/11 at 08:58 PM

I was working at Thurleigh in January last year whilst the company I work for had some throttle pedal problems

My colleague and I walked round all those cars and both of us were open mouthed in disbelief. After talking to the guys who load and unload the cars from the transporters with forklift trucks the site is used as the storage for all the scrappage scheme cars as there are only apparently a few breakers/crushers officially licensed to dispose of the cars from the scheme.

One of the employees told me they have been informed that they will be sacked on the spot if they even remove so much as a light bulb from a car!

It is absolutely criminal when you see the condition of some of the cars there


need4speed - 14/3/11 at 09:10 PM

Only live a few minutes away knew it was used for fleet storage, not these cars. May have to go and have a look see what I can find


stevegough - 14/3/11 at 09:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Andybarbet
'balidey'

Spot on post


Yeah - I second that, especially the bit about giving fleabay a poke in the greedy eye!


coozer - 14/3/11 at 09:34 PM

Thank f*%$ there was no ols skool Fords there..

Nothing wrong with scrappy Landrovers, sh1t motors that tend to scrap themselves just as quick!


plentywahalla - 14/3/11 at 09:41 PM

The true stupidity of the people who 'scrapped' these cars is that the dealers were giving £1000 of the £2000 discount.

These dealers would have given over a grand of discount on a new car anyway, without taking part in the scheme as it would cost them the same and save a lot of vehicle transport costs and unneccessary government paper pushing.

So the real value of these classics to the ex owners was less than a grand!!


owelly - 14/3/11 at 10:57 PM

The scrappy next to where I was living had the right idea. He took the money the government were paying him to dismantle the cars properly but instead, stripped the ID off them and sold them to blokes that came in the middle of the night with huge car transporters and took them over to eastern Europe. Recycling!


morcus - 15/3/11 at 03:56 AM

It does seem to have pushed the value of used cars up though. Which is good if your selling one.

I've noticed recently that there are alot less SAABs and Rovers on autotrader than there were 3 years ago.


zilspeed - 15/3/11 at 05:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by owelly
The scrappy next to where I was living had the right idea. He took the money the government were paying him to dismantle the cars properly but instead, stripped the ID off them and sold them to blokes that came in the middle of the night with huge car transporters and took them over to eastern Europe. Recycling!


Nothing like that happened up here.

At all.

Ever.

No way, it just didn't happen, right ?

That's my last word on the subject.


NS Dev - 15/3/11 at 08:08 PM

certainly looks like some good scope for reshells in there.............


speedyxjs - 15/3/11 at 08:19 PM

All those Jags! Im going to go have a little cry now


02GF74 - 16/3/11 at 12:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by balidey
But as ever there is usually a silver lining...

Imagine all these airfields full of everyday cars. All now off the road for ever. All have to be scrapped. We all know the most environmentally friendly way of disposing of these cars is to recycle. So perhaps the government could set up their own Ebay type auction to sell off car parts. This would have many benefits. It would keep OUR cars on the road. The money generated would go back into public coffers, so our taxes would reduce. It would set up a competitive alternative to Ebay, which would bring them down a peg or two. Maybe even get them to reduce their fees. And it would keep the scrap from being just scrapped.




You what? Remember who you are talking about here, the government .... when has common sense featured on the agenda?


Jasper - 16/3/11 at 02:09 PM

A guy I met recently owns a few local car dealerships - he made a fortune during the scheme and it all went straight in his and the foreign car makers pocket - so how did that benefit our economy


hillbillyracer - 16/3/11 at 08:06 PM

So in a similar idea as balidey, as well as selling parts, why not pick the choice stuff out that's worth a few quid & sell the complete cars? You'd only be talking about 10% or less I'd think as there'll be a lot of run of the mill stuff but it'd likely be worth as much as the rest would weigh in for!
There's little argument for saying that it would put these old polluting dangerous cars back on the road as they'd be the kind of motor that does little mileage & as enthusiast owned would be well enough maintained.
It'd bring money in when they're making (right or wrong) cuts that are hurting a lot of folk.

As already said though, this is the goverment we're talking about!!

I do think some of the owners needed a slap for falling for it though!