berkut
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posted on 1/6/05 at 03:55 PM |
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Mid engine modded cars
Hello!
Could you guys supply me with sites/ pics of normal cars converted to mid engined cars (lets say a VW Golf).
Im a great fan of the projects over here (and i have already designed a car) but unfourtenetly due to some cirumstances i need to concentrate on
modding a stock car by placing the engine in the back of the car.
I will be very gratefull for your input guys,
berkut
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Ben Smith
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posted on 1/6/05 at 10:19 PM |
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If you are building a mid engined golf, I think the guy you need to speak to is called Ian Birch and has a company in the uk called DubSport.
Don't know any contact details (try google). He has built rear engined and twin engined 4wd cars in the past.
Ben.
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kb58
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posted on 2/6/05 at 03:21 AM |
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I put a Honda drivetrain in the back of a "Mini". Tube-frame yes but it can be done to a real one too. See site in sig.
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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Ratman
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posted on 2/6/05 at 05:28 AM |
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Here's a link to a mid-engined Honda Accord which has been sucessfully rallied for a number of years here in NZ. Brian
http://www.kellyassociates.co.nz/Rallycar/Honda_rally_car.html
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berkut
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posted on 2/6/05 at 09:34 AM |
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kb58 i have read your site back and forth a few times already As well as Grabercars and a few others but you are preparing everything yourself wich
i cant unfourtenetly do.
Ratman - thank you for your input ! Everything will help guys !
Well it wont be a Golf. im still deciding wich car should i want to modify.
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theconrodkid
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posted on 2/6/05 at 01:49 PM |
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how about a fiat 127 or trabby?saw plenty last time i was there
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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berkut
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posted on 2/6/05 at 02:16 PM |
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A trabby, fiats, or polonez are totaly out of the game. I wont even touch them with bare hands or tools, maybe a hammer or plazma torch to rip em
apart.
Im thinking of buying a Ford Escort RS turbo. They cost dirt cheap over here and have a light chassis, most parts are dirt cheap. I would take out the
engine and have spare parts for my car (it happens i own a RS turbo in mint condition ). I
wont modify mine as its a classic car.
This car is really fast with only ~160bhp and would be even faster if i had some fun with it. And has some serious space in the back for a bigger
engine, transaxle gearbox etc. The radiator, IC's etc would be placed under the bonnet for better weight distibution.
Hmmm i think i was day dreaming again
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kb58
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posted on 3/6/05 at 01:23 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by berkut
kb58 i have read your site back and forth a few times already
But your proposed project is MUCH simplier. Youl already have a body, doors, glass, steering, complete front suspension...
You cut a hole in the rear flow, weld in a frame, then build a subframe holding your FWD drivetrain of choice. It is MUCH simpler then what
we're doing.
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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TheGecko
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posted on 3/6/05 at 02:54 AM |
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Here's a few examples of what you're suggesting:
Mid-engine Integra
CRX
Another CRX
and another
Also, do some searching for the Ford Festiva SHOgun, which was alittle Festiva hatchback with the Taurus SHO quad-cam V6 in the back . Here's
a link to a copy.
Hope this gives you some more ideas.
Dominic
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Alan B
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posted on 3/6/05 at 12:32 PM |
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Dominic, as usual, excellent research......I now have my quiet time on-line reading for later......Cheers..
Alan
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turbo time
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posted on 5/6/05 at 05:55 PM |
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quote:
......I now have my quiet time on-line reading for later...
Exactly my thoughts .
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TheGecko
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posted on 6/6/05 at 12:54 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Alan B
Dominic, as usual, excellent research....
Thanks Alan. If there was a way to make a living just searching for things on the net I think I
could be quite well off
Good to see some progress on your car too - it seems that my four favourite build diaries (Meerkat, La Bala, Kimini, & DP1) have all hit slow
patches at the same time leaving me with few updates to keep my interest alive. Of course, I shouldn't complain, since my diary hasn't
been updated in over 12 months Some serious family illnesses and a variety of other problems are my excuse.
Dominic
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berkut
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posted on 6/6/05 at 05:34 PM |
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Thank you for the wonderfull links !
I almost feel ashame to post this comparing to what you guys do, still i hope i will add something to the forums.
What do you think of using the Escort RS turbo as the "donor" car. I find it very light, small, parts are cheap over here, very simple
structure with plenty of ways to improve it.
My project goals are to make a very fast, mid engined car for pure enjoyment of building it and driving on the track / 1/4 mile lane / streets (very
rarelly).
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