timf
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| posted on 29/4/04 at 08:59 AM |
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new middie at stoneleigh
http://www.edgesportscars.com/
will have a look and get some photos
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Alez
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| posted on 29/4/04 at 10:32 AM |
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Similar in concept to the Dragon F1, although this one looks like a design meant for the road while the Dragon is a "could be made road
legal" one.
I really liked the concept, but personally would prefer a two seater (the Drangon is) and.. a bike engine on it 
Nice project.
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Alez
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| posted on 29/4/04 at 10:34 AM |
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..And superb avatar pic, BTW, where did you get it from?? I want to see more like that!!  
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 29/4/04 at 10:56 AM |
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At least its not another Cobra or seven Clone and middy seems to be the new black.
Quote on web site:
We expect a total cost of £5500 will produce a high quality example with devastating performance and the looks to match.
And the rest
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Alez
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| posted on 29/4/04 at 11:05 AM |
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quote:
We expect a total cost of £5500
LOL And a Locost was 250 pounds, right?
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Alan B
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| posted on 29/4/04 at 01:49 PM |
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Call me skeptical, but.....
If they are going to have a completed car at Stoneleigh I would have expected some rather more complete looking photos on the website....
Hope I'm wrong and there is plenty to photograph...but I wouldn't expect too much....
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it will be a great car...just not finished by Stoneleigh.
Of course it could be much further along, but if so why not update the website?
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andkilde
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| posted on 30/4/04 at 01:19 PM |
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Hmmn
I think these folks should hire Alan or Steve for some styling help -- it looks a bit "lumpy" around back.
It's very cool seeing multiple options for drivetrains being utilized though (these folks using a north/south front driver as donor).
Anybody know if the VW Fox transaxle is related to this Audi unit? Or if it is robust enough for more than the 85odd hp the VW put through it?
Cheers, Ted
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Alan B
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| posted on 30/4/04 at 02:17 PM |
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Thanks Ted, but I did get some help myself....which kinda reinforces your point I guess....
You'd think in this case, with one of the guys being ex FBS that styling would be a hot issue......
I don't mind the looks of what I see, but I'll reserve judgement until it's finished...hard to say from plug pics. and CAD
models......not really my cup of tea, the formula car look for the road, but may do well....
Still don't think it will be totally complete at Stoneleigh though.....
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Cita
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| posted on 30/4/04 at 04:35 PM |
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I'm glad the concept of the single seater formula style road car is gaining in interest and not just because i'm trying to built something
similar.
IMHO the time for a single seat road car has arrived.
I'm not too glad with the looks of the car ( it could be sleeker and certainly the rear end is a bit "boxy" and i think the Terrapin
look would make commercializing a bit easier.
Using a small FWD like the Mini,Ford Fiesta etc... would offer much greater flexability in the purchase of the donor car.I think Audi's are not
exactly the cheapest donors and therefore 5500£ is a bit optimistic .
Nevertheless something to follow!
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/4/04 at 07:42 PM |
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I'm glad the concept of the single seater formula style road car is gaining in interest
It's very popular among the Norman No Mates crowd.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Cita
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| posted on 30/4/04 at 08:13 PM |
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Who is Norman?
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Alan B
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| posted on 1/5/04 at 01:41 PM |
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My reason for prefering two seaters is that scaring your passenger is half the fun...
Each to their own I guess.
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sgraber
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| posted on 1/5/04 at 02:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andkilde
Hmmn
I think these folks should hire Alan or Steve for some styling help -- it looks a bit "lumpy" around back.
I agree that it looks really 'wrong' around the back. That flat expanse has more square footage than a schooners sails. Maybe it will help
push it a long in a tailwind... I don't think that will be helpful in maintaining flow off the back either. Will probably make the rear end
quite light at high speed. But what do I know? I am just a novice amateur with no schooling in automotive design. EDIT:- In reviewing the website I
think that since is such a small car, the large rear end won't be so bad. I think if they had re-arranged the tail-lights horizontally, and
added some other horizontal relief, it would have made the back fascia look less square. Still, the concept is neat, not too many people are doing it,
yet. I hope they succeed.
BTW - Designing cars is haaaard!!!! I'm killing myself doing just one as the choices are almost infinite and you always end up thinking that
maybe the next design iteration will be better. This causes one to NEVER FINISH@!$%^*(@^!%^)#*$. 
Going to buy plywood today!
Graber
[Edited on 5/1/04 by sgraber]
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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violentblue
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| posted on 2/5/04 at 03:46 AM |
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I'm a VW guy, and have been planning to use a similar drivetrain setup, the audi 5000 box is a well built unit, same box is used in the porsche
944 and 944t
I'm not a fan of the audi 5 cyl engine, but it does crank out quite a bit of power.
I think the VW 16v or the g60 would be a nice drivetrain option (will bolt up to the 5000 box)
the fox tranny is not a good choice, they handle the stock output of a 1.6L 8v na engine but I wouldn't trust them for anything more
significant.
a few pics of my other projects
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andkilde
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| posted on 2/5/04 at 02:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
I agree that it looks really 'wrong' around the back. That flat expanse has more square footage than a schooners sails...
[Edited on 5/1/04 by sgraber]
Perhaps it's the renderings -- to me it's the proportion of body to tire at the back that makes it look a bit heavy. Since
they've got that lovely, narrow at the top, powertrain configuration they could go with a more "traditional" formula car style
engine cover (tapering back) rather than the great wedge of cheese.
Suppose I'd best shut up before everyone on the board realizes that my car is still a figment
Cheers, Ted
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TheGecko
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| posted on 2/5/04 at 02:44 PM |
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As someone who has fought the "battle of the bulge" with rear end styling on a small mid-engined roadster, I have some sympathy for them.
However, as Steve rightly says, if they put some more horizontal elements, they'd reduce the back-end-of-a-bus look significantly.
I went through something quite similar and progressively added horizontals (lights, grille features etc) until it was, to me at least, acceptable.
Here's a sketch off my web site that gives some of the flavour. Added since then is another set of horizontal slats below the number plate
area.
Dominic
[Edited on 2/5/2004 by TheGecko]
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Cita
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| posted on 2/5/04 at 07:59 PM |
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Dominic,these guys have my blessings to be it alone for the fact that they are building a formula style single seater.
If you compare both backends of the cars you will notice that bottom of the wheelarches and backend of your car form a nearly straight line wich looks
nice.The coffin lid of your car sticks out about (gestimate) 15 cm above the wheelarches.The sloping sides give the impression that the lit is lower
than it actually is.
The curved top of the formula car gives the reverse impression,it looks higher than it is.
Also the bottom line of the body is below the wheelarches and is curved inside.
A straight cut just below the numberplate line would do wonders.
I'm afraid that putting in horizontal elements will make it even more "boxy"
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