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violentblue

posted on 12/1/04 at 05:43 AM Reply With Quote
Design concepts

one of the past threads on a new home built middy got me thinking, the design of the frame was quite angular and I thought, Hmm looks as though it would be faceted much like the first generation stealth

so I did a quick and easy 3d model to see how I thought it might look.

been thinking I might just do a simple version of this, basic tube frame, body would be strait forward, since it is all just flat surfaces, 1+1 seating (much like a fighter cockpit) If I did go ahead with it, it would be more of an art car that a racer or daily driver.

My tastes would be more in the aston martin/porsche range, but still thought this looked neat and If I could do it for cheap, it might be fun.




I'm thinking I might want to lose the front wing and change the shape of the nose, but imagine this passing you on the Highway,
not much of a realistic design but it'd be good for reaction, flat black paint and a turbine engine would finish the package off.





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Jonte

posted on 12/1/04 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
Looks good. But you´ll need a rear wing for the grip
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JoelP

posted on 12/1/04 at 11:29 AM Reply With Quote
nice!






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DaveFJ

posted on 12/1/04 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
to keep the line a good design of rear diffuser might remove the need for a spoiler

if the body was made of a 'radar dead' material it would be interesting to see how the speed traps reacted to it





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violentblue

posted on 12/1/04 at 01:40 PM Reply With Quote
the idea was to make it look like it was radar dead, as to whether it really was or not, I guess its not terribly important.

the main drive behind this concept is the reaction of those who see it.

style wise, not really what I'd call beautifull. but I do think its "neat"


as far as functionality of the spoilers goes, the body should act as a wing, but even still I don't intend to track it, and I definatly won't be driving it on the street above 150kmph

for drive train I was thinking I'd use an audi fox as a base (ultra cheap) so not like it'd be very powerfull, if I decided that it could use a little more oomph or a throatier sound I have a crossflow 2.0l I could stick in it.

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Spyderman

posted on 12/1/04 at 01:54 PM Reply With Quote
With a shape like that it deserves to be powered by a bike engine!
A real screamer with twin tail pipes out through the rear panel!

Mmm, definately needs a big rear wing on it.

Terry

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violentblue

posted on 12/1/04 at 02:29 PM Reply With Quote
ya a bike engine would derfinatly be neat but cost prohibitive for me.

I've been scouting Ebay for turbine engines, not likely I'd go that route, but would be uber-cool If I did manage to fit it with one.
Imagine this thing starting up with that high pitched turbine whine, or the paint on the side of your car blistering as I pass you.





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Hugh Paterson

posted on 12/1/04 at 02:31 PM Reply With Quote
Weapons

Dont see any pods for the AMRAAM's or heatseekers, mind u a gatling under the back would be effective for traffic cars too ROTFLMAO, know someone with a gas turbine if ur daft enough though.
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violentblue

posted on 12/1/04 at 02:34 PM Reply With Quote
Hey if you're giving the turbine away, I'll pay for shipping, and yes I'm daft enough.





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violentblue

posted on 12/1/04 at 02:42 PM Reply With Quote
Oh wait a minute, shipping from the UK would kill me. hmm anyone a little more local have a turbine that thay'd donate to a worthy cause?





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kb58

posted on 12/1/04 at 03:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by violentblue
ya a bike engine would derfinatly be neat but cost prohibitive for me. I've been scouting Ebay for turbine engines...


So a bike engine is more expensive then a turbine?!

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violentblue

posted on 12/1/04 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
scouting ebay is a whole lot different than bidding. I've got a server to pay for befor I can think about a turbine engine.

turbine would be neat, but not really feasible. If I do build it I'll run the 2.0l crossflow engine (vw) and if I stumble across a deal on a turbine engine when I have the extra cash, I might just do it, but not likely in the mean time.





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violentblue

posted on 12/1/04 at 04:30 PM Reply With Quote
of course another idea could be electric motivation, very stealth.

but electric power is expensive, heavy and very little power.





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violentblue

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:31 AM Reply With Quote
a couple new pictures with a tail wing added
click the pic for a larger version



I couldn't just tack on a standard wing, but the design I came up with seems to fit the theme





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MikeR

posted on 13/1/04 at 01:51 AM Reply With Quote
how about folding the rear wing down to match the shape of the rear of the car? I think that might look rather effective.
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internetautomart

posted on 13/1/04 at 02:28 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by violentblue
of course another idea could be electric motivation, very stealth.

but electric power is expensive, heavy and very little power.

Expensive: yes
heavy: not much more so overall than a gas motor/gas tank
Very little power : no, they have many quite powerful motors available.





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violentblue

posted on 13/1/04 at 03:09 AM Reply With Quote
the rear wing is actually tippe up at the same angle as the back of the car slopes down.

I thought about paralelling the two surfaces, but decided that following the example of the stealth fighter with the dual tail wings would be better, tiping the angle down a little more.





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MikeR

posted on 13/1/04 at 11:22 AM Reply With Quote
Daft thought .... how do you get in? I realise you've only just had the idea but those sides are quite high and deep. If you keep them I guess they'd add a lot of strength but it would certainly be a clamber to get over them.
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violentblue

posted on 13/1/04 at 01:42 PM Reply With Quote
plan was to reinforce them to take the weight of a person, and use anti skid pad for a step.

top will open like a fighter cockpit.





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tadltd

posted on 15/1/04 at 12:50 AM Reply With Quote
tried military surplus for a cheap turbine? don't you guys have an 'aircraft graveyard' somewhere in Arizona? I'm sure there'll be a coupla turbines kicking about there ...

Steve.

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violentblue

posted on 15/1/04 at 04:38 AM Reply With Quote
I'm actually locatewd across the line in Canada, our military surplus consists of 30 year old cans of beans.





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MikeR

posted on 15/1/04 at 11:40 AM Reply With Quote
well eat lots of beens, light a match and .....

your own jet engine

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speck

posted on 15/1/04 at 09:55 PM Reply With Quote
Try this link out for size: home made jet-engines. He's written a book as well!!

http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pjet/

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violentblue

posted on 16/1/04 at 02:30 PM Reply With Quote
I've actually looked into homebuilt jet engines before, problem is they only make enough power to move a scooter along, and the scooter has to have a big bottle of propane strapped to the side.

if I have enough room above the tranny, I may build one and install it there just for effect.





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