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Triton

posted on 12/3/08 at 10:33 PM Reply With Quote
cracking car matey...





My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.

www.tritonraceseats.com

www.hairyhedgehog.com

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chunkytfg

posted on 13/3/08 at 04:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
FJ wouldn't say but i'm now with Adrian Flux for £61 for the year with no time limit on finishing the build...

James


Cheers James.

Cracking car by the way

I can only hope for half the talent you have when i start my build

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cloudy

posted on 16/3/08 at 08:33 PM Reply With Quote
I'm having some trouble with my pedal box, when the pedal is depressed the arrangement pivots as shown in the pic, eventually ending up at about 45 degrees and impeding further travel!



Any ideas on this one? I know I need to move the pivots closer together, but I don't think this will solve it...

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nitram38

posted on 16/3/08 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
Any clearer and closer photos?






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Kaspa

posted on 17/3/08 at 02:20 AM Reply With Quote
Cloudy, your going to have to mount your pedal box to a substantial surface, either the floor plate, or to full width brackets, just picture in your mind how much force the brake pedal in particular will get , that will give you a good idea how strong the mounts need to be
cheers Kaspa





understeer= when you hit the wall front first
oversteer=when you hit the wall back first
HP= how fast you hit the wall
Torque= how far the wall moves when you hit it

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cloudy

posted on 17/3/08 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
If you look closely you can see it's mounted with a G clamp to a temporary chassis rail! I'm a little offended you'd think I'd leave it like that!
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Alan B

posted on 17/3/08 at 11:29 AM Reply With Quote
Cloudy, I'm pretty sure Kaspa assumes you'll remove the clamp (as we all would). However, there is no other clue as to how the pedals will be mounted..presonally I am pretty sure you will do something substantial, but without a being mind readers we have a duty in the interests of safety to point out things like that.

As Martin points out a better picture would help too.

Please don't take offence....it's all meant as constructive observation (not even critisism, as we don't know your plan)

Looking really nice BTW

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Lippoman

posted on 18/3/08 at 08:10 AM Reply With Quote
The pivoting is in the balance bar? Are the MCs moving smoothly?

More detailed pics showing the situation when it "jams" (preferrably from the top and side) would make troubleshooting easier, could be geometry issues...

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cloudy

posted on 18/3/08 at 08:28 AM Reply With Quote
What i'll do is wait till it's all pressurised and then get pics if it's still doing it....

James

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COREdevelopments

posted on 18/3/08 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
james/cloudy what pedal box you using? i have a luego/obp one. and mine used to jam up when depressed. turned out it was the hole where the balance bar pivots had distorted during welding. it was easy to fix just reamed it out. pedal now travels all the way smoothly. (please ignore me if this is not the case)

hope this helps

atb

rob

[Edited on 18/3/08 by COREdevelopments]






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cloudy

posted on 20/3/08 at 11:06 PM Reply With Quote
It's better now, it doesn't jam at least - will add brake fluid tomorrow...

James

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Kaspa

posted on 21/3/08 at 07:33 AM Reply With Quote
sorry bloke i wasnt questioning your engineering i just didnt look at the big picture or totaly understand your question, i to have an OBP floor mounted pedal box and it was sticking as well when first fitted, but a light ream with some emmry paper and some lube in the housing and bobs your uncle, works extreemly well now
every thing else is looking good, you should be proud of yourself
Kaspa





understeer= when you hit the wall front first
oversteer=when you hit the wall back first
HP= how fast you hit the wall
Torque= how far the wall moves when you hit it

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cloudy

posted on 23/3/08 at 11:39 PM Reply With Quote
A disappointing day - I managed to get it onto the drive under it's own power but I'm having engine troubles - it's only running on 1 or 2 cylinders - whilst you can pull off the engine just dies a few seconds later. Suspect fuelling issues.

Here's the vid anyway:

http://www.digital-car.co.uk/wr4/mk2/video/firstdrive6.wmv

[Edited on 24/3/08 by cloudy]

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neilj37

posted on 24/3/08 at 07:53 AM Reply With Quote
Really like the look of your car but you need to re-think the brakes. Using your feet to stop the car al-la Fred Flinstone his going to hurt after a while k
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nitram38

posted on 24/3/08 at 08:51 AM Reply With Quote
Your car is really cool
You seem to have a lot simpler chassis than mine and it appears to be more compact.
Maybe I shouldn't have looked at the atom so hard!
Seeing your car move has made me want to speed up a bit, but hopefully I will catch up as you have still got to dis-asemble it for painting.
Mine is in pieces so that I can finish the chassis and paint it.
Hopefully, this will be the last assembly before driving it!






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cloudy

posted on 24/3/08 at 10:27 AM Reply With Quote
A lot of it is temporary to be able to test it, I've got to take a lot off now it works!

I'm sure you'll catch me up

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cloudy

posted on 24/3/08 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
Twas the plugs causing the problem - I only had spark on one plug! Renewed all 4 as it needed doing anyway and she purrs again

James

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cloudy

posted on 24/3/08 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
Right, now we are talking:

http://www.digital-car.co.uk/wr4/mk2/video/seconddrive.wmv

Snapped one of the cut and shut driveshafts but made a quick repair...




James

[Edited on 24/3/08 by cloudy]

[Edited on 24/3/08 by cloudy]

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quinnj3

posted on 25/3/08 at 09:49 AM Reply With Quote
nice.

its bound to feel good when you get to that stage.





my aim is to build my own locost wether it takes me a week or 10 years to get started, i'm sure i will sometime

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COREdevelopments

posted on 26/3/08 at 01:02 AM Reply With Quote
nice, bet you are so tempted to just go for a blast down the road!!! whats with the earmuffs? dont you wanna hear it roar?! she sounds nuts.
good work i really like it.

Rob






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Fred W B

posted on 26/3/08 at 09:08 AM Reply With Quote
Looking great!

You guys who build cars in single garages are heroes - don't know if I could keep up my enthusiasm in those conditions

Cheers

Fred W B





You can do it quickly. You can do it cheap. You can do it right. – Pick any two.

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cloudy

posted on 7/4/08 at 08:42 PM Reply With Quote
I need a some advice on this one...

Trying to work out how to sort my cooling system. The bike stock has one water rad about 400mm x 350mm and one oil cooler about half this.

I like to keep things symetrical so was thinking about putting them as follows, but I don't like the idea of one having a fan and one not...

Any other good idea's where they could go? The water exits top left of engine and enters bottom left, the oil enters and leaves at the bottom of the front under the exhausts...
I don't want to mount it at the front of the car due to the extra weight of coolant it would require...

Also bear in mind I'm planning to have the air intake between the seats atom stylee






[Edited on 7/4/08 by cloudy]

[Edited on 7/4/08 by cloudy]

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nitram38

posted on 7/4/08 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
The atom has a single rad at the front of the car as per the picture.
My R1 oil cooler is built onto the engine and pipes into the standard rad. Can't you come up with a similar set up?
Thinkautomotive do oil coolers that plumb into your water system.

Description
Description


My rad on my front subframe:
front subframe
front subframe


[Edited on 7/4/2008 by nitram38]






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Doug68

posted on 8/4/08 at 12:44 AM Reply With Quote
The later GSXR-1100 lumps were water - oil cooled. The early ones were air - oil cooled.

If I were to replace the air to oil heat exchanger I with a water to oil exchanger then I'd want to really make sure it has sufficient cooling capacity as these engines do rely on the oil for cooling. Particularly in a car where the engine is gong to get worked hard than it would in the bike.

I like where the rads are positioned now, I'd build entry and exit ducts to protect them from road crap and make them work better though.





Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA

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neilj37

posted on 8/4/08 at 06:50 AM Reply With Quote
Personally I think mounting them to the side spoils the clean lines of the car.

I would either mount it at the front of the car as per the atom setup or somewhere around the back within the frame work and duct the air in.

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