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dubstar_04

posted on 15/11/08 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
If it wasn't for the wheels it would be perfect!!
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gottabedone

posted on 15/11/08 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
I like the option at the top of the screen to order an independant inspection - worth the money just for a laugh

The front may look line an Enzo from 100yds with beer goggles but the rear looks like a sad washing machine with a shelf over it
That dash is so Enzo - I like the way that he has disguised all of the CF to look like - well plastic!

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MakeEverything

posted on 15/11/08 at 10:50 AM Reply With Quote
The mans a genius. Hes managed to build a Supercar for Mr Bean.
I love the fact that the advert seems so sincere. Why would you have lexan windows that are removeable? Id keep the smoked ones in, in the hope that it disguised my identity!!!

Ive just wet myself laughing.





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Richard.

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sgraber

posted on 15/11/08 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
That is surely one of the signs of the apocalypse.





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"Quickness through lightness"

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kb58

posted on 15/11/08 at 04:44 PM Reply With Quote
This is like a "me too" lynching. I think we should cut the guy some slack; at least he built something, instead of wasting time watching TV.

I think we all need to get off our high horse and realize there are lots of people out there who think our cars are ugly. My Kimini, Steve's La Bala, the Locost shape, I've read negative comments on all our cars, so maybe we should just let the poor guy be.

[Edited on 11/15/08 by kb58]





Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html

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Dick Bear

posted on 18/11/08 at 03:41 AM Reply With Quote
I don't particularly like the design but then I've never liked the looks of the original he used as his point of departure. However, it would seem to me that on a site dedicated to creating vehicles, and all that is involved in doing so, a less judgmental attitude would prevail. I doubt whether there has been a car made that we couldn't find fault with some aspect of its being.

And, I doubt whether there has been a unit made that we couldn't find some aspect done better than we are capable of doing if only that be the fact that it was completed or that the design wasn't limited by our inability to create compound curves from a 2-dimensional piece of plastic or metal.

I agree with Kurt (kb58) and suggest a little restraint and a lot less smugness be our guide when we're tempted to take part in a destructive frenzy like the one I just read. We all come to this activity with different abilities, backgrounds and areas of expertise. The sharing of each of those will do much more to raise the bar than attacking someone else's attempts regardless of how feeble we may feel them to be.

Dick Bear





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Fred W B

posted on 18/11/08 at 11:27 AM Reply With Quote
Okay, let me try for a considered response. At least we got Kurt and Dick to agree on something.

I made the post originally for the comedy value, as the vendor described the car as a “ferrari enzo replica” .

To me a replica is a car that looks quite a bit like the original, while this patently does not. If he had not claimed that the car is a Ferrari replica I would have surfed on by. Sure pointing and sniggering at him is not PC, but we have to draw the line somewhere.

He is being defended as having built something, but that car was not built in the context we use on LCB. It is cladding panels and other bits and pieces attached to a 1986 Pontiac Fiero. I would contend that it is much closer to the chav/barry/wide boy specials we see on other web sites and on the streets, than to a scratch built car

This is my opinion; hopefully we can agree to differ.


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Fred W B





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Alan B

posted on 18/11/08 at 12:47 PM Reply With Quote
Normally I'd tend to agree more with Dick and Kurt on these kind of things. Like most of us here I really do know how much work and effort is involved in our hobby and hate to see such merciless attacks.

However, this time I'm with Fred...when you say somthing is a replica you expect to be judged on it's accuracy. This example is possibly the most inaccurate replica I have ever seen....and I've seen some really bad ones.

I could cut him some slack on a few things, but the fake plastic engine (for example) is totally unforgiveable.

[Edited on 18/11/08 by Alan B]

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Dick Bear

posted on 18/11/08 at 01:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
A least we got Kurt and Dick to agree on something.Originally posted by Alan B



I was going to comment on that as well but decided not to go there. That's a great line! Perhaps we've both mellowed some.

Not that my acceptance is important but the explanation given by each of you is valid. It just seemed to be going beyond that. I'm okay with some good hearted jabbing and if that is what was meant .... I understand.

Too many good guys and great work is being done here to spoil the party at the expense of someone's personal feelings

Dick Bear

PS. sorry Fred about my quote line. I can't ever get quotes to post right but enjoyed the comment.





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sgraber

posted on 18/11/08 at 02:14 PM Reply With Quote
My car is not a replica Kurt. So if it is ugly, it's ugly on it's own merits, not because it is being compared to something that it 'should' look like.... That is a completely different kind of ugly.





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"Quickness through lightness"

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kb58

posted on 18/11/08 at 02:23 PM Reply With Quote
Good points, since it's claimed as a replica it's fair enough for the gloves to come off, as long as that's what's being picked on.

You guys are missing out. Go to a kit car show sometime to see the full impact of how important looks are. At the U.S. shows at least, it's ALL about looks. The fake engine covers are nothing; fake disc brakes, fake engine sound effects, it's like being at an inpersonators convention.

[Edited on 11/18/08 by kb58]





Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html

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kb58

posted on 18/11/08 at 02:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fred W B
At least we got Kurt and Dick to agree on something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could happen.





Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html

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kb58

posted on 18/11/08 at 02:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
My car is not a replica Kurt. So if it is ugly, it's ugly on it's own merits, not because it is being compared to something that it 'should' look like.... That is a completely different kind of ugly.

OTOH I suppose Kimini does fall into the replica catagory since I say it's a Mini. There've been negative comments I've overheard, always about the shape of the shell. Anyhow, water under the bridge, it's been sold and I'm on to my next ugly car project!





Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html

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