Hugh Paterson
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| posted on 3/1/04 at 10:37 AM |
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New project
Bob, u looking ahead to your NEXT project by any chance
Shug.
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ChrisW
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 09:31 AM |
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Just looked in after talking to Bob over the weekend. Certainly happy to help out if you mid engine guys want to put something together. If you want
to do a site I can arrange midengine.locostbuilders.co.uk (or similar) address and the relevant space. Failing that, if you just wanted to expand the
forum a bit then I can arrange that too.
Just let me know what you want and I'm sure I can help, either by email or in this post. I'll keep an eye on the discussion for a few
days 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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sgraber
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 02:05 PM |
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Chris W. - I'd be quite happy if locostbuilders became a one stop shop for all things related to the home car builder. And were not talking
about kit builders right? There are lots of sites for kit builders, just not much out there for us scratch builders. The most questions I get at my
site are related to "How do I design the suspension then?" My suggestion to those people has always been to buy a book or two and read
about it. But immediate gratification is what everyone wants, So I think a Primer on suspension design, with some nice illustrations would be good.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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violentblue
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 02:19 PM |
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idea was for scratch built cars
no problem if someone wants to do it here thats fine. I'll even submit tech articles.
I'll revisit the idea of a stand alone site in a month or so and see what we think.
a few pics of my other projects
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ned
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 02:20 PM |
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Steve (graber)
I've heard Steve Gusterthingy mentioned a free suspension prog on a yahoo list somewhere. i guess it's finding the info and piecing it all
together. who's willing to write/compile the info and articles? I'm personally in favour of expanding the middie section to have an
archive or techinal section, you could give it its own domain name as chrisw suggests if need be. drive trains and suspension design IMHO appear ot be
the two biggest area of newbie type questions.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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sgraber
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 03:11 PM |
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Ned, I think that being able to point people to those resources is great. That should be a section.
For the sake of efficiency and maintaining a critical mass of members - Do we need to split off into a "middy" domain? So much about
building a Middy car has carryover from the Front engine and BEC realms. I would hate to see the pool of knowledge diluted by a desire to
compartmentalize, categorize and seperate. IMHO Suspension design, chassis design, electrics, et al are all so similar (the numbers may be different,
but the procesees are similar). Drivetrain and bodywork are of course, dissimilar...
As an alternative to the offshoot, should Locostbuilders simply start a new area off the main website (Not the forum) for articles, and have that area
subdivided into Chassis, electrics, fE drivetrain, mE drivetrain, etc... Opinions?
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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ChrisW
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 03:56 PM |
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You've hit the nail on the head with regard to my future plans for the site. A technical archive for building including sections for
middy's, BEC's, and of course ones relating to the common cars (Viento, Indy, etc) must be the way forward. My only worry is where to
source the content.
Perhaps a Wiki is the way forward? Those with an IT persuasion will know what I am talking about. It's kind of like a book that anyone can
contribute to. Comments??
Chris
My gaff my rules
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sgraber
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 04:25 PM |
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I too was thinking about the problem of copyrighted material. If the information presented originated from ideas read from a book, do you need to
obtain permission for reprint even if you paraphrase the content?
Although I have never contributed to a Wiki, I think it might work. But I've always wondered how do you keep "garbage" out of the
Wiki?
ChrisW do you want to start a new thread on this topic?
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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ChrisW
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 05:09 PM |
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I think maybe a new topic in 'anything else' is in order. I've been investigating a little
(This site sums it up pretty well). I think moderation comes in the form that anyone can
edit/delete/change pages so garbage is cleared very quickly by 'someone' meaning there is little point in doing it. I'm thinking
it's not too difficult a concept to program so perhaps an integrated system using our usual login names, is the way forward. Most people are
intelligent enough not to post garbage in the forums so I can't see any additional problems with a Wiki style system? I can also tailor it to
our needs as I feel a little more should be made of who made what comments.
If there are a few people nodding in agreement I'll perhaps write some concept code this evening and see how we go.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Alan B
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 05:15 PM |
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I bet I'd agree 100%...if I knew what a wiki was..
Anyone care to enlighten me?
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Alan B
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 05:20 PM |
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Ok I read the wiki wiki link.......
Erm...perhaps I still need it explaining...
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ChrisW
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 05:58 PM |
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It basically a site which anyone can add pages, edit pages, cross link page etc. The traditional system is completely unregulated - ie anyone is free
to do anything they like relying on the fact that as the next user along can simply undo their changes there is little point in vandalising what is
there.
If I was to adopt something similar I think I would force a little more regulation but still keep the 'anyone can do anything' concept.
That help Alan?
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Alan B
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| posted on 5/1/04 at 07:21 PM |
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Yes it does...thanks..
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ChrisW
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| posted on 6/1/04 at 05:02 PM |
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Have a look here. Proof of concept only so it's very rough and ready. Feel free to play with
it, add stuff, delete stuff. I've only had a few mates play with it so far so whats on there is mainly bollocks.
If you guys think it's an interesting idea we can let the rest know about it! 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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TomTool
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| posted on 7/1/04 at 02:21 PM |
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WebSite?!
Hi all, i was lurking your site and comments for a time cause i`d like to build a car from scratch like you (The only problem is that i`m from Germany
and we`ve the hardest SVA ever ;-) )
Now i want to help you as a thank you for your nice tips & tricks on this site...
I`ve a domain called http://www.xcars.org and i`d like to share it with you guys for a special midengine scratch build
site.
As the domain ends with the .org i think it describes that i don`t want to make some money i only like the idea to build my own car (since i was 16 -
long time ago)
So please tell me what you think and i will make it open for you guys!
cu
Tom
ps: Steve Graber - I love your car!
(Sorry still working on my english)
[Edited on 7/1/04 by TomTool]
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violentblue
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| posted on 7/1/04 at 03:02 PM |
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I'm in the midst of setting up a web server, once it is done I can definatly host the site and get the basics rolling.
xcars- thats a cool name and would abe an appropriate description of what we're all about.
as far as making the locostbuilders site the center thats fine, but we need someone to get the ball rolling, I'll do what I can and if we decide
to move it over here, thats fine.
a few pics of my other projects
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TomTool
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| posted on 7/1/04 at 07:08 PM |
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Umhh? After i followed a link to the mr 2 frame from Steve Graber i found a site called xcars.com with some infos about the Toyota MR2 - i swear - i
didn`t know!!!
But as you see "Nomen est Omen" - I hope you like the idea...
cu
TomTool
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suparuss
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| posted on 7/1/04 at 08:21 PM |
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how adout a rating system for the articles, if thats what you meant about garbage, so if something seems inacurate or just downright wrong or if you
just have general comments on a particular article, then you could just click a link which takes you to a add comment page or whatever. as well as
having a star rating etc. i think they have something similar at piston heads, but it links you to a forum topic specifically for the artical in
question.
Russ.
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JoelP
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| posted on 8/1/04 at 10:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
Have a look here. Proof of concept only so it's very rough and ready. Feel free to play with
it, add stuff, delete stuff. I've only had a few mates play with it so far so whats on there is mainly bollocks.
If you guys think it's an interesting idea we can let the rest know about it!
Chris
Thats quite fun, makes me feel competent somehow...
very easy to use, though i suspect someone will edit out all my drivel...!
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Alan B
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| posted on 8/1/04 at 01:28 PM |
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Hey it's cool...I'm getting the hang of it..
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JoelP
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| posted on 8/1/04 at 03:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
Hey it's cool...I'm getting the hang of it..
Oops, nearly lost your page then! if you change the wiki word link, it looses the original target page!
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ChrisW
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| posted on 8/1/04 at 03:27 PM |
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If you delete a wikiword it won't delete the page. Just insert the same word somewhere else. At the same time, you can add the same WikiWord
to multiple pages to link to the same page.
Confused? You will be!!
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Alan B
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| posted on 8/1/04 at 03:53 PM |
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Yeah I found that by experimenting with InDex......cool I like it..
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ChrisW
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| posted on 8/1/04 at 04:24 PM |
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Glad u all like it I'll try and fix a few bugs tonight and persuade a few others to play with it.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Metal Hippy
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| posted on 8/1/04 at 04:51 PM |
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I've had a play with it.
Nice concept. If that can develop it'll be very useful I reckon.
Although to be honest I think anything would be better than splitting off a source of resources from this one central location. In my opinion that
would be a bad move that would inevitably cause people to miss out on useful stuff.
Cock off or cock on. You choose.
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