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Peteff

posted on 11/7/05 at 09:40 AM Reply With Quote
Unfortunate choice though.

The photographer could have picked a better spot, or is the shed on the back something to do with the noise level reduction. Rescued attachment Mickes shed.JPG
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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Winston Todge

posted on 11/7/05 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
Unbelievable!

Just clicked on the 'trike' area of locostbuilders to find this thread!

Absolutely awesome piece of design and engineering Micke...

I'm interested as to why you chose to build a trike after your other builds? What was the inspiration? Any benefits over a four wheeler? Or just because you can!!?

Later, Chris.






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Cita

posted on 11/7/05 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote
I think the fuel cell is located on the passengers side Steve and not next to the driver,so the chance of a "A" arm going through it is rather small I think.
In such a minimalistic car regarding space,it's very difficult to get all the parts tucked away in a safe and functional position.

Cheers Cita

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 11/7/05 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
The photographer could have picked a better spot, or is the shed on the back something to do with the noise level reduction.


OHH NO!!! You cought me!!
Yes I bought a 20m3 shed and mounted it on the trike to get a sound proof wood wall around the silencer.. I thought noone would notice it

Funny, I havent noticed the shed before





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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 11/7/05 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Winston Todge
Just clicked on the 'trike' area of locostbuilders to find this thread!

Absolutely awesome piece of design and engineering Micke...

I'm interested as to why you chose to build a trike after your other builds? What was the inspiration? Any benefits over a four wheeler? Or just because you can!!?

Later, Chris.



hehe!! Thanks Chris! Why a three wheeler? I dont really know.. The "backwards" threewheeler is NOT what you see on the swedish roads every day, can I tell. This makes it more fun to build a vehicle that no one else have. The bike rear end is very light compered to make it a 4 wheeler. Then is the geomety theory around a trike much different compered to a car. It was a big challenge to get the wheight "CG" in the right place to get it corner as fast as possible without tipping over "1,55G:s".. The vehicle ballance is a nother interesting point.
And the final reson is: In Sweden you CAN have as much engine power as you want in a motorbike/ MC-trike..

I just love make things that noone else have and nothing is impossible = This is my motto!





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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 11/7/05 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cita
I think the fuel cell is located on the passengers side Steve and not next to the driver,so the chance of a "A" arm going through it is rather small I think.
In such a minimalistic car regarding space,it's very difficult to get all the parts tucked away in a safe and functional position.

Cheers Cita


Thanks! Exaktly. One thing that ment more then the "risk of injury during exident" where the weight distribution. More weight in the front= less risk of tipping over= "Another kind of safety".. I just hope that I doesn´t have to find out what the suspension parts will do during a crash.





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RallyHarry

posted on 12/7/05 at 01:34 AM Reply With Quote
Wouldn't it be better to leave the original biketank in it's original location ?
I mean, with that kind of HP and with minimal contact patch on the rear wheel, chance are your going to hit something (hard) dead on ( no pun intended) rather than being rear-ended.

How are you planning to get all that power to the ground?, that rear spoiler isn't legal in Sweden is it ?

Love your ride and keep us updated.

Cheers

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 11/8/05 at 07:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RallyHarry
Wouldn't it be better to leave the original biketank in it's original location ?
I mean, with that kind of HP and with minimal contact patch on the rear wheel, chance are your going to hit something (hard) dead on ( no pun intended) rather than being rear-ended.

How are you planning to get all that power to the ground?, that rear spoiler isn't legal in Sweden is it ?

Love your ride and keep us updated.

Cheers


Hi!! I have now changed rear tyre to a car tyre "205/45x17". After testing this tyre on the road, I can tell it provides much better grip then the bike tyre, but is still some grip problems in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear.. i´m satisfied with the acc (for now)!
Regarding the rear wing. This "wing" is actually a VERY aerodynamic turninglight holder. So, because of the swedish law, I must have a turninglight within 400mm from the widest line of the vehicle- even if the widest point is in the front. My T42 trike is very narrow in the rear, so I must have something pointing out on eath side. This makes it legal for me to have a wing on my trike (with turninglight on the endplates). I´ve mounted rubberexpanding nuts as wing mounts, so it will fall of during a accidential inpact.



Rear turninglight on the rear wing.



This is my 3/4 test before I get the T42 road legal.



This is Gustaf Ulander, a licensed SFRO man. Here he is checking out the fuel system.



Preparing for hes first testride.
This testday includes a check of all parts that is mounted to the vehicle, such brakes, fuel lines etc. and driving the vehicle to the limit. They will see how the vehicle performe on the road- IF IT`S SAFE. The drivingtest tests full brake (with a G-gauge), full acc, heavy cornering and a combination of all..





Back again... As you can see- Gustaf in VERY happy with the performance of the T42 trike.


And the final test- turning and braking WITH passenger. The T42 trike have passed even this test. The t42 braked 1.06 G:s with hard standard tyres!!! VERY GOOD!! Now only one test is remaining to get it roadlegal.





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Spyderman

posted on 12/8/05 at 12:05 PM Reply With Quote
Congratulations Micke!

Your trike is looking fantastic.
I have been following your progress with great interest. Hopefully the final stages of becoming road legal will be as easy as impressing the safety inspector!

You have certainly done yourself proud with this beast and the only thing I can find criticism in is the shape of the mud guards.
I think it would look much sleeker with simpler basic guards on that hug the wheels. Those that you have on draw the attention away from the main vehicle, and looking as good as it does, you don't want to distract the eye away from it!
This is probably just a personal taste thing tho'!

Again, many congratulations!

Terry






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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 15/8/05 at 08:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spyderman
Congratulations Micke!

Your trike is looking fantastic.
I have been following your progress with great interest. Hopefully the final stages of becoming road legal will be as easy as impressing the safety inspector!

You have certainly done yourself proud with this beast and the only thing I can find criticism in is the shape of the mud guards.
I think it would look much sleeker with simpler basic guards on that hug the wheels. Those that you have on draw the attention away from the main vehicle, and looking as good as it does, you don't want to distract the eye away from it!
This is probably just a personal taste thing tho'!

Again, many congratulations!

Terry



Thanks!! I understand the thoughts about the fenders
Eather you like them or you hate them- That´s the deal with radical design .

What do you think about this coloring?








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Winston Todge

posted on 15/8/05 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
Looks absolutely fantastic Micke! Again, a close follower of this thread and have consistently been more than impressed by your design...

Well done and fingers crossed for the final stages!

Chris.

P.S. Whens the new video being released?

[Edited on 15-8-05 by Winston Todge]






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sean951

posted on 23/8/05 at 07:50 PM Reply With Quote
so your going with the superbike paint scheme i thought that one would look good, now that you did a photoshop of it i can really say it does look good, very aggressive. i wonder what it would look like if the wheels where entirely orange? or bright green? may be worth playing with in photoshop.
Sean

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akumabito

posted on 3/9/05 at 11:58 AM Reply With Quote
This machine still amazes me.. excellent work, and great to see the beast on the road..

I guess it's just a matter of personal taste, but it does seem a little long to me.. I think the machine would look better proportioned if it were a single-seater.. like so:



Anyways, I'm gonna go re-read your site again and drool some more..

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Rorty

posted on 3/9/05 at 02:34 PM Reply With Quote
Even as a "single seater" it still looks incredibly long.





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akumabito

posted on 3/9/05 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
Even as a "single seater" it still looks incredibly long.


True, but you can't keep the engine on your lap.. the only way to make it even shorter is by changing it to a 4-wheeler..

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akumabito

posted on 3/9/05 at 04:42 PM Reply With Quote
Quick photoshop:



I know, got some messed up perspective and all, mehh..

Nahh, it looks cooler as a three wheeler..

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 3/9/05 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
Hello!!! Thanks for the photoshops!! Cool.

As you can see, This type of threewheelers will always look incredible long in some views. look here!






Here I have put out a "4:th" wheel. The T42 is 217cm wide, so the rear wheels
is standing out a bit..
Like a Formulacar!!





Look at the rear wheels.. Standing out pritty much too.



[Edited on 3/9/05 by Micke Fredriksson]





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JoelP

posted on 3/9/05 at 11:18 PM Reply With Quote
the car looks cool micke






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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 5/9/05 at 09:11 AM Reply With Quote
Hello!! When I made the last "test" a lokal newspaper made a article.
You perhaps doesn´t speek swedish but it looks like this! 2 pages.










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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 14/9/05 at 06:01 PM Reply With Quote
Here´s a short VIDEO from a lokal legal dragracing event here in Umeå (sweden).

The grip was VERY limited!! But it was rather fun anyway.

VIDEO:
http://www.mride.se/downloads/Blackrace_050910_Mride_T42.wmv



blackrace1
blackrace1



blackrace2
blackrace2



blackrace3
blackrace3






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Peteff

posted on 14/9/05 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
Time to widen the swing arm to get more rubber in there Mikke.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 14/9/05 at 09:37 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Time to widen the swing arm to get more rubber in there Mikke.


Hehe!! Yea, Not a bad idea!!
It was worse grip then usual that time. In normal conditions the grip is much better..

I photoshoped a picture to a "more race like" T42.. Darth Vader...







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Rorty

posted on 14/9/05 at 10:54 PM Reply With Quote
You're never going to get any real traction with a 45mm wide contact patch with the motorcycle rear tyre. When you upgrade to a proper wide car meat you'll see some proper performance.





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Micke Fredriksson

posted on 15/9/05 at 09:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
You're never going to get any real traction with a 45mm wide contact patch with the motorcycle rear tyre. When you upgrade to a proper wide car meat you'll see some proper performance.


I have a 205/45x17 car tyre now not a bike tyre.. It´s just a ordinary road car tyre so it isn´t sticky like a Racing (yokohama A032R) tyre. It would be nice to try a "R-tyre"..





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akumabito

posted on 28/9/05 at 07:23 PM Reply With Quote
...traction control maybe? Or launch control perhaps..

What was your best time on the track?

[Edited on 28/9/05 by akumabito]

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