richwill
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 09:51 PM |
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Crash damaged kit as donor
If i were to buy a crash damaged kit car ( cat C ) and took all the parts from it and put them on a new chassis would this be legal.Would the crashed
car be considered a donor and what implications are there in registering it.
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blakep82
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 09:56 PM |
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if the parts you replace are identical, not just as in a 7 chassis, but the same model of chassis from the same manufacturer as the original, then i
beleive you won't need to re IVA. if you can't get an exact replacement, then you'll have to re iva i think. there's a lot
more to it really, but thats the cut down version
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mark chandler
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 10:03 PM |
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CAT C is damaged repairable so just repair I recon.
A these things are really very simple I would look at stripping down, strapping to a flat table and replace the bent bits, it cannot be horribly bent
if a CAT C, this would make it a CAT D
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pekwah1
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 10:04 PM |
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surely if you are putting parts on a 'new' chassis then it would need to be re-registered and probably iva'd assuming the chassis
it's going on isn't already iva'd?
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wylliezx9r
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 10:10 PM |
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Cat D is the least amount of damage for a car to be written off ie panel damage or flood damage etc. Cat c is a write off due to chassis damage but is
still repairable I believe a cat b is never allowed back on the road due to the extent of the damage.
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
George Best
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 10:17 PM |
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People get confused over cats
Cat D The value of the repair is less than the value of the vehicle, but when added to the salvage value renders the repair uneconomic
Cat C The value of the repair exceeds the value of the vehicle.(Nothing more nothing less)
Cat B The damage to the vehicle renders it unsafe to be returned to the road - but still has residual value, break only.
Cat A The vehicle has no appreciable residual value - burn out etc
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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dilley
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 10:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
CAT C is damaged repairable so just repair I recon.
A these things are really very simple I would look at stripping down, strapping to a flat table and replace the bent bits, it cannot be horribly bent
if a CAT C, this would make it a CAT D
If it was really bad it would be a cat B, break only,.
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dilley
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 10:26 PM |
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Too late, should have read it all first!
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adithorp
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| posted on 18/11/10 at 10:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pekwah1
surely if you are putting parts on a 'new' chassis then it would need to be re-registered and probably iva'd assuming the chassis
it's going on isn't already iva'd?
No, if you rebuild usind a replacement, identical chassis or body shell you can transfer the chassis number to the new chassis and then it just
requires a DVLA identity check.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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ed1801
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| posted on 19/11/10 at 08:03 AM |
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Exactly - my 12 year old fazer motorbike became cat c after some numpty knocked it over outside my house.
The only damage was some scratches to panels, exhaust and pegs - but to replace these parts with new was more than the 700 odd quid bike was worth. So
very little damage but still Cat C. I just ride around on a scratched bike 
If it was an almost brand new car that was cat C it is completely different - what damage would you have to do to Cat C a 30 grand car - it's
got to be pretty wrecked!
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
People get confused over cats
Cat D The value of the repair is less than the value of the vehicle, but when added to the salvage value renders the repair uneconomic
Cat C The value of the repair exceeds the value of the vehicle.(Nothing more nothing less)
Cat B The damage to the vehicle renders it unsafe to be returned to the road - but still has residual value, break only.
Cat A The vehicle has no appreciable residual value - burn out etc
[Edited on 19/11/10 by ed1801]
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loggyboy
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| posted on 19/11/10 at 10:46 AM |
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It would likely come under the the principles of the points system.
Allocating a vehicle registration mark:
The vehicle must score eight or more points to retain the original registration mark. If less than eight points are scored or a second-hand or
modified chassis or altered monocoque bodyshell is used an Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA), enhanced single vehicle approval (ESVA), single vehicle
approval (SVA) or motorcycle single vehicle approval (MSVA) certificate will be required to register the vehicle. A 'Q' prefix
registration number will be allocated.
So obviously you would need a 'new' chassis, but it could be from any manufactuer.
The following values will be allocated to the major components used:
chassis or body shell (body and chassis as one unit - monocoque ie direct replacement from the manufacturer) (original or new) = 5 points
suspension = 2 points
axles = 2 points
transmission = 2 points
steering assembly = 2 points
engine = 1 point
So you would get your 8 points from retaining the above items and therefore you could keep the reg and no need for IVA etc.
[Edited on 19/11/10 by loggyboy]
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interestedparty
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| posted on 19/11/10 at 12:06 PM |
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BEar in mind that if you do retain the original registration, it will STILL be a CAT C vehicle, even after it is repaired and had the VIC check, so
that is obviously going to have an effect on its resale value, if that is an issue
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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TPG
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| posted on 19/11/10 at 04:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by interestedparty
BEar in mind that if you do retain the original registration, it will STILL be a CAT C vehicle, even after it is repaired and had the VIC check, so
that is obviously going to have an effect on its resale value, if that is an issue
That's it in a nut shell.Think of it as reshelling a tintop.VIC check etc,resale value.
..Which was nice..
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