sgraber
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| posted on 12/1/05 at 10:56 PM |
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A roof for my middy?
A roof for La Bala? I had a large sheet of cardboard that was in danger of being ruined by the storms that rolled through here so I placed the
cardboard on top of my car to store it temporarily. It kind of draped itself in a roof shape, so I helped it along a bit. I think that a roof might
not be such a bad idea for the car. My idea is to hinge it from the front up at the windshield. It would be built in two pieces. A rear piece that
attaches to the bootlid and a roof section that is removable to create a targa, but also hinged to flip upwards so I don't have to create
doors.
What do you think? (The photo is just a template idea, not even close to a finished shape)
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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Hellfire
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| posted on 12/1/05 at 11:18 PM |
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Looks kind of 'ok' from this angle - side angle would give a better idea Steve. 
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sgraber
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| posted on 12/1/05 at 11:33 PM |
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Yes, I will be sure to take some better angles this weekend when I do my garage marathon. (Wife and kiddies are gone for the weekend...)
My thought was mainly to announce the idea that I was working on a roof concept. When I offer la Bala for sale, it will be a strong selling point to
have a roof.
Graber
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 12:47 AM |
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I think that looks really good, would definitely like to see some other angles. If I understand you correctly you would lift the roof up to get into
the car, then pull it back down once you're in? Good idea to save fitting doors!
What would you do about rear visibility? Have that incorporated into the solid rear section?
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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sgraber
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 01:11 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
I think that looks really good, would definitely like to see some other angles. If I understand you correctly you would lift the roof up to get into
the car, then pull it back down once you're in? Good idea to save fitting doors!
What would you do about rear visibility? Have that incorporated into the solid rear section?
Pete
I like to think of it as a central, vertically opening door that hinges from the windshield header. When you sit in the car you reach up and pull it
down. It latches at the back onto the top of the rollbar. A gas strut aids in lifting when opening. It is removable for fair weather driving. The
fixed rear section would be mainly a curved lexan rear window in a frame of some type. I have to figure out how to add side windows. I don't
actually like the idea of roll-up windows. But fixed windows will not do. So they must be able to be dropped down. Question is, how best to do it? I
am thinking lexan in a magnetic frame for seal and a latch to hold firm.
Soon I will work up a 3D rendering of this item for review and comment.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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Rorty
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 04:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
Butt-fixed windows will not do.
I should think not too! 
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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violentblue
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 05:08 AM |
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can't wait to see the side profile
a few pics of my other projects
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 02:23 PM |
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looks like a toyota celica roof panel ! could try some other coupes for a nicely curved roof panel to mold off ?
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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sgraber
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 02:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
looks like a toyota celica roof panel ! could try some other coupes for a nicely curved roof panel to mold off ?
Good idea! I would gladly take a mold off of an existing car. That way I can reuse the decklid glass. Which celica did you have in mind? Photo? I was
looking through my 3D mesh database last night but didn't see anything useful.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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akumabito
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 03:36 PM |
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Like this?
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sgraber
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 03:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
Like this?
That's cool. Any other cars with a similar decklid? Maybe smaller and more curved?
G.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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mcig68
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| posted on 13/1/05 at 10:46 PM |
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Opening windows
I am sure the Lancia Stratos side windows opened by means of a pivot. The roughly triangular window moved through an arc, the pivot point was at the
front of the glass. Not sure whether the handle was glued on to the glass or straps were used.
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sgraber
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| posted on 14/1/05 at 06:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcig68
I am sure the Lancia Stratos side windows opened by means of a pivot. The roughly triangular window moved through an arc, the pivot point was at the
front of the glass. Not sure whether the handle was glued on to the glass or straps were used.
Anyone have any piccies/sketches of this?
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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akumabito
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| posted on 14/1/05 at 04:55 PM |
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Hope this helps, looks like a simple system...
quote:
The side windows on a Strato's are raised and lowered by unscrewing a large knob. You then move the window manually, and then retighten the
knob. Note: the door pocket is shaped to accept a crash helmet when it is not being worn.
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Dean
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 09:05 AM |
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Sorry off topic......, but Steve is that Jetta a TDI ?
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sgraber
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 03:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean
Sorry off topic......, but Steve is that Jetta a TDI ?
It's a 2000 VR6. Lovely car. For a Sedan that is. 
G.
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ned
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 03:58 PM |
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the jetta is known in the uk as the 'bora' -go figure!
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 06:21 PM |
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To avoid the flipping the whole roof, could you not just put 2 "door" panels in the roof which either flip up gullwing stylee or just clip
out?
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ned
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 06:28 PM |
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you mean like targa top door for a removable roof car?
beware, I've got yellow skin
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/1/05 at 06:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ned
you mean like targa top door for a removable roof car?
Guess so. The Fury has a similar method. Only problem I have with the Fury roof is that it is ugly as s!n
http://build.fishersportscars.co.uk/
Do a search on hood/hardtop and you'll see what I mean.
My Rover 200 coupe had a removeable T-bar
Look about halfway down this page
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sgraber
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| posted on 18/1/05 at 10:52 PM |
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I was hoping to keep it as simple as possible. Therefore the front hinging idea. One panel, hinging on one side and latching on the other.
Here are a few more photos taken of the structure. Realize that you must SQUINT to get past the fact that is is cardboard, the shape is not right and
a host of other issues. Simply put, have some imagination!
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/1/05 at 11:04 PM |
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I really like it!
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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stevebubs
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| posted on 18/1/05 at 11:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
I really like it!
Pete
I do, too. Lovely car...
My only criticism from that angle is that the rear wheel looks a bit small in proportion to the overall package.
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Dale
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 10:32 PM |
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Just a comment-- I love the look of the car with the top off but it just does not look right to me with that slope on the rear of the top. It looks
good and slippery but just does not look natural to the rest of it.
Not my car though so keep up the good work.
Dale
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sgraber
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| posted on 21/1/05 at 03:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dale
Just a comment-- I love the look of the car with the top off but it just does not look right to me with that slope on the rear of the top. It looks
good and slippery but just does not look natural to the rest of it.
Not my car though so keep up the good work.
Dale
When you say, "On the rear of the top.." - I'm not sure I understand your description. Are you talking about the coupe top, or
something about the fender area above the rear wheel...
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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