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TimC

posted on 29/9/05 at 08:50 PM Reply With Quote
Sylva R1OT

Hello

What do people think of the R1OT? Done a search on here and can find very few comments.

Any random comments on the kit welscome.

Cheers

TC






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JonBowden

posted on 29/9/05 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
Looks fantastic to me - a mid engined seven.
one of my dream cars





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Triton

posted on 29/9/05 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
Nice from the front but a tad strange at the back...otherwise ok
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GregMcN

posted on 29/9/05 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
I think it looks good too and considered getting one. I liked the idea of an ultra lightweight, mid R1 engined car with efficient chain drive but when I spoke to them it was not clear to me whether the bike engined version could get through SVA and there was no reverse option - though things may have moved on now. I went for an MNR.
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colibriman

posted on 29/9/05 at 10:16 PM Reply With Quote
I supplied an engine to a fella who has just started building one....

seems happy with the kit so far





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MartinDB

posted on 29/9/05 at 10:29 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Colin,
guess that'll be me .

I'd say "a tad strange from the back" is a polite way of putting it, but then again, it won't be the view I'll see. I admit their SE demonstrator doesn't do it for me, but I love the look the original has with the shoulder bar and roll bar bracing.
Hopefully, there will be at least one R1 powered example SVA'd by the end of the year

Martin.

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colibriman

posted on 29/9/05 at 11:14 PM Reply With Quote
Speak of the devil and all that....





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kb58

posted on 30/9/05 at 03:35 AM Reply With Quote
My only concern is that in even a mild side impact, that bar seens just right to cause serious head injury...





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Alez

posted on 30/9/05 at 06:40 AM Reply With Quote
I like it very much, it's a very clean, simple and tidy car and looks effective.
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smart51

posted on 30/9/05 at 07:28 AM Reply With Quote
It was the r1ot that finaly persuaded me to build a kit car. I was put off by it not having an SVA at the time. Also, I learned that a normal front engined BEC can have better weight distribution as the r1ot is slightly rear heavy. In the end I went for the VortX as I thought that the GRP was the best. I couldn't split it any other way between a few different sevens.
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JonBowden

posted on 30/9/05 at 07:51 AM Reply With Quote
presumably the zetec engined RIOT has no SVA problems.
If I had one I would want to fit a seven style windscreen. I think the car's styling would look more balanced with a windscreen.





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Alez

posted on 30/9/05 at 02:51 PM Reply With Quote
So what's exactly the problem with the R1 engined R1ot as to SVA? I thought you didn't need a reverse to pass SVA, so what is it? (BTW we do need a reverse to get a car approved in Spain.)
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stevebubs

posted on 30/9/05 at 06:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alez
So what's exactly the problem with the R1 engined R1ot as to SVA? I thought you didn't need a reverse to pass SVA, so what is it? (BTW we do need a reverse to get a car approved in Spain.)


It isn't any more difficult to get the R1 powered R1ot through SVA than the Zetec one.

No more so than any BEC, anyhow - and there's plenty of those around.

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KJK

posted on 30/9/05 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
sylva r10t

having built a striker and a fury the r10t is well thought out and fairly easy to build,the only bit that i found tricky was making the scuttle which i am still not happy with ,the car looks far better in the flesh than in pictures,and if it lives up to sylvas reputation it could be the best handeling sylva yet?
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Rorty

posted on 2/10/05 at 07:07 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kb58
My only concern is that in even a mild side impact, that bar seens just right to cause serious head injury...

I agree. I think it's one of the greatest boobs in recent kit car history. I presume it was added for strength, but it could cause serious injury in an accident.
Damned pity they didn't work a way around it because it's a ripping wee car otherwise.
I actually talked someone out of buying a Riot because of that bar.





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JonBowden

posted on 2/10/05 at 08:25 AM Reply With Quote
Rorty
I may be missing the point here but it seems to me that in the event of a side impact the offending car's nose (or bull bar) is likely to take out your arm or sholder. The side bars on the blue R1OT should reduce the impact somewhat - a bit like the side impact bars built into most mainstream car doors.





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Rorty

posted on 2/10/05 at 08:54 AM Reply With Quote
I reckon if you got a bit slippy on a roundabout or corner and smacked hard sideways into a kerb it would be enough to do yourself a very nasty injury.
A chap who worked for me put his scone through a side window in a similar scenario.
That bar is not going to save anything if hit the side other than at car park speeds.





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kb58

posted on 2/10/05 at 03:51 PM Reply With Quote
Wearing a helmet would probably be a good idea. I really like the car otherwise, and if I build another from scratch it'll share in my inspiration.





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iank

posted on 3/10/05 at 09:21 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kb58
Wearing a helmet would probably be a good idea. I really like the car otherwise, and if I build another from scratch it'll share in my inspiration.


The side bars have always been on the option list, the chassis comes as standard with a plain hoop (arguably also a bad idea, but 'proper' bracing is also in the options list).

http://www.sylva.co.uk/riot.htm now has pictures of both the blue bike engined car with them, and the new green Zetec-SE engined car without.

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